Tyson speaks about the current state of boxing, and hits the nail on the head.

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  1. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Drexl, there is hope for you, yet.
     
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  2. Action

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    They had 2.5 million homes. What's the big deal about that. When Muhammad Ali fought here were tens of millions watching. Just because it broke PPV records doesbn't mean anything. PPV viewer numbers are miniscule compared to times past.
    Thats like the promoter in S. Cal who brags about his consecutive sellout string of 1,500 in a hotel ballroom...So what!?
     
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  3. tragicliston

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    Are you sure about that? Can you back your claims up with any stats?
     
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  4. Svengali

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    He's 100 percent right. Some folks are just in denial.
     
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  5. Flatlander

    Flatlander Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The one thing that is certain is that boxing is 100% better off without Tyson. The man is right, he is disillusioned
     
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  6. tragicliston

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    Didn't you used to be an English teacher?
     
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  7. Flatlander

    Flatlander Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  8. marting

    marting Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson thinks boxing is fading into Bolivian.
     
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  9. Punisher33

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    As far as Bowe is concerned, he was a very popular fighter, if you remember back in 92 when Holyfield/Bowe had there first fight, Bowe seemed to have a bigger fan base than Holyfield at that time. Bowe had a great personality, he always joked with Foreman and other commentators, as well as an exciting fighter in the ring. When he hit Larry Donald with that one, two punch, during the press confrence it brought his nice guy persona down little bit though.

    At least we agree on the rest though.:good
     
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  10. larryx

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    WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  11. Outboxer

    Outboxer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Personally, I've always thought that the ideal is when 'character' meets talent/skill/guts. Why on earth does it need to be one or the other? Ali was a combination. Tyson was a combination. The list goes on. I feel that Tyson is correct in that boxing is, without a doubt, a form of entertainment -- I love to see beautiful skills in the ring, but I also want some sort of investment with the people in that ring. Nearly any fan will admit that boxing becomes that much more tense and anticipated when they have some sort of emotional investment in the outcome. If fighters are made out of cardboard in the personality department, connecting to them on some level is incredibly difficult to do, and thus you are not as 'into' the fight as you otherwise would be.

    Some of the biggest fights in history have been largely impacted by the clash of personalities. Duran and Leonard, Ali and Frazier, Tyson and Holyfield, Eubank and Benn, Morales and Barrera, Robinson and LaMotta, Pep and Saddler...
     
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  12. BeReal

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    If boxing needs characters, then, could the savior of boxing be...............CHARLIE ZELENOFF:smoke
     
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  13. Outboxer

    Outboxer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Y'know, he's actually a perfect example of the principle behind Tyson's words, as silly as that may sound. This is a guy who has absolutely NO amateur experience, and his first fight attracted an amazing amount of attention over the internet. Outside of fighters from the olympics turning pro, that kind of attention to a debut match is absolutely insane. People begged for the video the day the fight took place, and even now his Youtube page is pretty much camped by all sorts of people eager to see what kind of idiotic crap he'll spew next. He's attracted freaks in waves -- BSterge (or whatever the hell his name is), Andrew, Fatman Claudio, etc. He's had a documentary made about him. People have been calling his house. Speculations are going on all over the internet boxing community about this wacko.

    ALL THIS ATTENTION.

    Why? Not because of his skills. He has no skills whatsoever. It's because of his character, or at least the character he depicted over Youtube, whether it's real or a facade. Zelenoff is the epitome of what Tyson speaks about.
     
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  14. Sweet Pea

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  15. lillarry

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    Yeah he is 100% right. Boxing today is devoid of characters that make the casual sporting fan want tune in. The casual fan knew Mike Tyson. They knew Sugar Ray Leonard. It might be factors outside of their controlling, but todays boxing stars don't have that "it" factor.

    The casual fan aint tuning on a Saturday night to see a Vlad fight.
     
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