Tyson v Douglas ll - 1991

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  1. JudgeDredd

    JudgeDredd Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sorry if this has been done before, but let's just say Douglas hadn't lost to Holyfield & shows up in great shape against the 1991 version of Tyson. Does he still have too much for Tyson? Would a hungry albeit less technical Tyson be able to find a way to beat a technically proficient fighter like Douglas?
     
  2. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    If Douglas fought the same way he did against the Tyson of 1991, he would have had a good shot of beating him again. I actually believe the style Douglas had was more affective than Holyfields who just wrestled an unfit Tyson into exhaustion, he didnt beat him with boxing skills. That style would have never worked with Tyson in 91 in my opinion, but Douglas used boxing skills to offset Tyson and keep him off balance and at the end of his punches, by moving and using his jab and combinations. The version of Tyson in 91 was easy to hit although Tyson was also in better shape and would have been more determined. It would have been an interesting fight, but again Douglas didnt really have the stuff inside to consistently compete at the top and he basically was content with the one big win.
     
  3. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Possibly but he still would have a chance against Mike. What he did in Tokyo was beautiful I love that fight and I'm a guy that loves Tyson as a fighter. Buster would pop Tyson with a jab everytime he would try to plan his feet and showed heart after getting up from that hellacious uppercut from hell. My bet is that most likely Tyson wins and comes up for the rematch in shape and not taking Douglas lightly again. You fool me once shame on you, you fool me twice shame on me...
     
  4. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Possibly not. Tyson never showed the capacity to improve or alter his attack, particularly against an opponent who already beat him. If Douglas shows up with the same waistline as the first fight we're likely to see the same result.
     
  5. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    Tyson would have won the rematch. It might have been tough but just a little more motivated Tyson gets punches off against Douglas which stops Douglas.
     
  6. Cheese

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    Buster fought a smart fight. Everyone has to give him his credit. But Mike would of broke Buster in half if they fought again.(http://www.nytimes.com/1990/03/03/sports/sports-people-boxing-trump-sues-too.html?pagewanted=1)
    Buster and his team had an agreement with Don King and Donald Trump for a rematch with Mike but Buster refused and Don and Donald sued Douglas. If he was so confident why didn't he fight Mike again after he and his team made an agreement to do so? Things that make you go hmmmmm......
     
  7. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Douglas didn't want to be seen as a "one hit wonder" but became that anyways. Irony!
     
  8. hallelujahholla

    hallelujahholla Original Gangsta Full Member

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    Tyson of 1987 stops Douglas in 8 or less...no question.
     
  9. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In their bout that Douglas won everything went right for Douglas. He fought the perfect fight and Tyson had an off night and one of the worst corners in the history of boxing. I don't think he had a real trainer with him in the ring that night.
    Douglas was a very talented boxer but he rarely brought his "A" game to the ring with him. Tyson who was no longer at his best was still a very good boxer.
    Assumeing that Douglass beat Holyfield which I'm not sure he would have se my commit about him not always fighting up to his abbility above and even if he did I am not sure who wins.
    two things need to happen for Douglas to beat Tyson 1. Douglas has to bring his "A" game and Tyson has to leave his "A" game somewhere else.
    I don't think this combonation happens twice.
    Tyson t/ko 7 Douglas.
     
  10. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Yeah that corner was terrible! I don't think trainers should be using a condom filled with icy water to heal cuts.
     
  11. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    It was a glove not a condem, but still ridiculous.
     
  12. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    By 91, an increasingly lethargic Tyson was struggling against Ruddock who was just loading up with wild uppercuts in tough but ugly matches. The sharp jabbing Douglas of 90 would probably walk away with another dominating win.

    Seriously, this is some ugly boxing:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqQq_zd0w6M&feature=related[/ame]
     
  13. slicksouthpaw16

    slicksouthpaw16 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If Douglas came in the same shape he did in their first fight, he would win again because mentally, Tyson wouldn't be the same ( and he wasn't for the rest of his career). In shape Tyson vs the Douglas that fought Holyfield, Tyson wins by KO.
     
  14. apollack

    apollack Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson by KO against the best Douglas, who looked that good in the first fight only because Tyson was so bad. Even a horribly prepared and totally out of it Tyson nearly KO'd the best Douglas never seen before that night or since. Tyson allowed Douglas to look that good by putting up such a pathetic performance, owing to overconfidence, which led to lack of training focus. Anyone who plods around throwing one punch at a time, little speed, no head movement, no combos, no footwork, mostly jabs, they'll make an in-shape boxer look great. Hell, if Tyson showed up like that against lots of guys, he'd have gotten thrashed the same way.

    Holyfield showed what happens when an in-shape class fighter puts it on Buster. Douglas knew it too, and went off into the sunset right quick.

    If you don't believe me, just ask (or review the statements of) Berbick, Page, and McCall, all of whom sparred with Tyson before Douglas and all of whom said they easily handled Mike and knew something was wrong. That knockdown of Tyson by Page, a guy not known for his punch, was no fluke, but rather a sign of what was actually going on.
     
  15. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    I know it was a joke:D