my statement was "some relevance" to strength in the ring, not absolute relevance. and what I meant to say is... "You don't find Joe Frazier attractive?" This content is protected Neither did Eddie Futch, said he had the worst body of a heavyweight champ he had ever seen.
Very good article by Mike Casey in similar thread: Mike Casey on Tyson vs ATG's http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=172850
i would pick 100% only 3 men against peak tyson. george foreman,peak holyfield, peak ali 66. probably prime liston would demolish tyson too, but i would not pick him 100% joe louis,joe frazier,prime holmes,lewis,vitali klitschko might beat tyson if rocky marciano increments his weight he would beat tyson for sure. and he could do it because he was big boned. the speed would not be relevant because rocky was slow under any weigh
Marciano was big boned and could fight at 230, god white people are some simpled minded people. If he could of boxed at that weight he would, Nobody drains themselves and make themselves weaker. Putting on 50 pounds wouldnt increase anything for him. Marciano struggled to knock out washed up middleweights like Archie "Glass Chin" more. Marciano was already the slowest fighter who ever won a title so putting on 50 pounds would make it even worse. Tyson would still butt **** this overrated white clown.
Are we talking prime Tyson, or the post-Rooney Tyson, i.e. the coulda woulda shoulda guy he was for 80% of his career? Prime Tyson is dangerous as hell and a legit ATG but you don't judge a boxer on 2-3 years of their prime, you judge them over a decade or more of performance, and in that respect Tyson falls woefully short. 1995+ Tyson vs the top 10 ATGs, he loses to ALL of them, some in humiliating blowouts. Foreman of the Frazier & Norton fights would blow away 1996 Tyson in 2 rounds. Joe Louis would destroy him. Ali would make him cry like McCall. Frazier would brutalize him and ruin him. Lewis would toy with him before putting him away in the later rounds. Liston would club him into submission. Marciano would win comfortably, breaking him down over a gruelling 10-12 rounds. How about instead of comparing Tyson at his peak to ATGs at their average level, we compare like with like?
Dempsey had too much heart for Tyson...and Marciano didn't??? Marciano by KO...he would have taken what heart Tyson had out of him!!!
Tyson had his ass kicked by Buster Douglas..and a past his prime Holyfield..and yet...he destroys Marciano....Dempsey...Joe Louis...Frazier...etc???.....yeah,...and then you woke up...Dempsey gets floored and knocked out of the ring by Firpo in 1923...and yet comes back to win...Marciano gets pounded...cut...blinded...and is floored for the 1st time ..and yet throws the greatest right hand ever...and wins the title...and yet..Tyson NEVER got up off the canvas and came back to win...and you've got him beating some of the best heavys ever???.....please.....stop! Tyson is vastly overated on this and other sites...
Buster Douglas was 6'4 230 you dumb white **** sucker. There are weight classes for a reason. Marciano isnt above this because he is white. Douglas would kick Marciano 180 pound italian ass too
Okay I am taking notes here. You hate black people, you dispise white people, and now you are picking at Italian's too? Who DO you like ?