Tyson vs Bowe (96/97ish)

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Azzer85, Jun 30, 2014.


  1. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    28,283
    469
    Mar 13, 2010
    Riddick Bowe season continues....

    who would have won this crossroads fight, had they fought each other instead of the Holyfield and Golota rematches?

    the Tyson of the first Holyfield fight vs Bowe of the first Golota fight?

    Both men lost to guys they were favoured to beat.

    Bowe pretty much retired afterwards and Tyson really didnt do much either after the bite fights.

    Who had more left out of the two?


    Note: Tyson did beat Golota and Botha in 99-00

    and we're NOT talking primes here, only the 96-97 period when this fight realistically could/should have happened
     
  2. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    14,436
    2,839
    Feb 18, 2012
    I'd have to go with Bowe as he was the bigger man and the better all round boxer, Tyson might catch him early and hurt him but I think Bowe recovers and Tyson would eventually stop on his stool.
     
  3. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    28,283
    469
    Mar 13, 2010
    Thats the thing, Tyson wouldnt let Bowe recover, once he gets Bowe, i think Bowe gets stopped on his feet. Hed be taking much harder shots than what Golota hit him with
     
  4. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    11,302
    4,162
    Aug 2, 2013
    Bowe would've beaten him in '91 or '96.

    The Tyson of the Holyfield rematch, does a job on him in '97.
     
  5. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    11,302
    4,162
    Aug 2, 2013
    Bowe would've beaten him in '91 or '96.

    The Tyson of the Holyfield rematch, does a job on him in '97.
     
  6. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    11,302
    4,162
    Aug 2, 2013
    Bowe is very difficult for Tyson because he has the height and reach to keep him at bay but also the infighting ability when Tyson does close the gap.
     
  7. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    28,283
    469
    Mar 13, 2010
    Do you think the Tyson of 97 was better than the Tyson of 96?
     
  8. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    28,283
    469
    Mar 13, 2010
    But also has the tendency to get hit alot and having never fought a puncher (apart from Hide), we dont know how Bowe would react trying to trade off with Tyson.

    From Bowes recent comments on a previous thread, Bowe said Hide basically nearly had him out of there.

    Tyson would have an easier time finding Bowe than Lewis/Holyfield
     
  9. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    11,302
    4,162
    Aug 2, 2013
    Clearly he was in better shape in Holyfield II than since maybe the Holmes fight. His body and head movement, jabs, rights and combinations were all there.
     
  10. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    11,302
    4,162
    Aug 2, 2013
    Hide made Vitali look like a donkey. Very, very, very fast for a heavyweight.
     
  11. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    28,283
    469
    Mar 13, 2010
    True, the Tyson of the Holyfield rematch was physically much better than the sloppy Tyson of 96, however i feel the Tyson of the first Holyfield fight was mentally stronger.

    Tyson was never the same mentally after the first Holyfield fight.
     
  12. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    11,302
    4,162
    Aug 2, 2013
    Tyson doesn't like a trade-off because he tends to set his feet rather than let shots go freely, you can nail him down the pipe during his dips and hip turns. Holyfield and Douglas just extended those elbows when they stood their ground and always bettered Mike in exchanges. Donkey Bruno let a straightish hook go when Tyson was loading up and nearly took him.

    He's at his best at mid-range against a cautious fighter, sporadic fighting for his sudden explosive bursts.
     
  13. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    28,283
    469
    Mar 13, 2010
    But there is a chance that Bowe could get carried away and walk into a huge Tyson hayemaker, like the one he knocked down Golota with (and broke his facial bones)

    It just seems to me, Bowe would offer Tyson more opportunities to land than the other guys did.

    Douglas boxed an amazing fight, but the one second where he 'admired his work' Tyson found the answer with that short uppercut.

    Same with Holyfield, in round 5 Holyfield got too close and personal and Tyson saw the opening and landed a couple of good uppercuts

    None of these guys allowed Tyson to really plant his feet, Bowe would.

    Even against Lewis, if you rewatch the fight, you can tell Tyson had done his homework, he was throwing lots of overhand rights at Lewis, hoping to land one like Mcall/Rahman, Lewis knew this and was too wise for this.

    It all depends on how Bowe reacts whne he gets hit by Tyson, Bowe has never faced a puncher anywhere close to Tyson and Tyson did stop a lot of guys whod never been stopped before.
     
  14. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    25,109
    8,550
    Jul 17, 2009
    In this period,Bowe was more over the hill than Tyson was.

    Tyson via tko.
     
  15. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    14,436
    2,839
    Feb 18, 2012
    Tyson dropped Golota but couldn't finish the job, Infact if Golota hadn't had quit I think he would have eventually won the fight.