Tyson Vs Douglas. Douglas KO10 Or Tyson KO8?

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  1. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Actually you are wrong, messrs King and Sulaiman felt Tyson won! ;)

    I think people forget that. The referee is not a timekeeper, and the only proviso is the count is consistent.
     
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  3. heavy_handss

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    Douglas won, period
     
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  4. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    King quickly changed his opinion when he saw the side by side comparison of the knockdowns. They were identical.

    This isn't the Tunney-Dempsey situation where one guy got a count that was much slower than the other.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHcbFUTIslI /end thread
     
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  5. detamour

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    Those 2 criminals tried to rob buster of his title in the dressing room fools, remember that!!
     
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  6. Hookie

    Hookie Affeldt... Referee, Judge, and Timekeeper Full Member

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    Explain yourself.

    A fighter can be down for an hour, doesn't matter... you go by the count you are giving (the ref). Douglas could have gotten up earlier, he was taking all the time that was given to him without being counted out. If the ref would have reached 8 or 9 sooner... Douglas would have gotten up sooner.

    Pretty much the same explanation for Tunney against Dempsey.
     
    Hookie, Aug 6, 2014
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  7. Hookie

    Hookie Affeldt... Referee, Judge, and Timekeeper Full Member

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    Lewis never did
     
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  8. kmac

    kmac On permanent vacation Full Member

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    is this don king?
     
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  9. Vince Voltage

    Vince Voltage Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good God, this again. Buster could've gotten up earlier. HE was milking the count as one is supposed to.
     
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  10. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Think about it this way, something very similar happened to Sonny Liston. In Ali-Liston II. When he took a dive, Walcott never even started the count. Yet, the timekeeper showed Liston was down for more than ten seconds and he was considered knocked out. According to Liston, he was milking the count. Just like Douglas was. I just don't see how it's fair Douglas gets the benefit of the doubt and Liston doesn't.
     
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  11. Berlenbach

    Berlenbach Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Douglas KO10. I didn't think the count was particularly slow and regardless it's the referee's count that counts.

    Liston isn't really a valid comparison. Douglas got a legitimate count from the referee and so did Tyson. In Liston-Ali, Walcott lost control of the bout, Liston never received a count at all and ended up being waved off while he was on his feet on the say so of Nat Fleischer.
     
    Berlenbach, Nov 28, 2015
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  12. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Douglas ko 10.

    He was visually following the ref's count and could have risen earlier in the count. It's not Douglas's fault the ref was counting slow.
     
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  13. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :rofl

    If he was taking a dive, he was intentionally losing and would have never beaten the count regardless.
     
    Saad54, Nov 28, 2015
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  14. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    dougie was ok, something else was willing him that ngiht, you could see it in the way he checked himself once knocked down. It was the way the Thing looks at you if you accidentally trip him. He was Judge Dredd saying I am the Laaawww
     
    HerolGee, Nov 28, 2015
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  15. hookfromhell

    hookfromhell Well-Known Member Full Member

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    my thing is what is the point of having someone at ringside do the count. The refs count was behind the japanese guy's.
     
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