Tyson vs Foreman (both prime). Could Tyson avoid Foreman's uppercuts?

Who said it would be an easy fight????

I reluctantly picked Foreman to win, never said it would be an easy fight for either fighter.

Tyson undoubtedly has the speed edge, but I'd give the power edge to Foreman. I know Tyson's chin's better than Moore's that wasn't the point, the point was Foreman's power. Hell he even bounced Frazier off the canvas with his power shots. I know Tyson has a different type of defense than Frazier does, but if you're actually stuipid enough to come at Foreman, I think he hits you regardless of what type of defense you have.

 

Ron Lyle came at Foreman. Foreman was very sloppy and wild but slow with his punches. Tyson will frustrate him and Foreman will get careless, demoralized by missing and being ineffective. Tyson had very good ring intelligence and knew how to finish off his opponents when he had them in trouble.

This coming at Foreman is suicide argument is overblown.

 

What can I say? I've watch both of them fight since day one and I think Foreman would win. It's close enough that if you or anyone else disagreed with this, it's not really a big deal. I think either fighter could win. But in my mind at least, the key to beating Tyson was to not be scared of him and fight him. This is what Holyfield, Douglas, and Lewis did. Most other fighters like Spinks were looking for a way out before the bell even rang. Foreman would for sure be going into the fight with the same mental focus as Holyfield and others who beat Tyson.

 

The likes of Ribalta, Green, Thomas, Tillis, Tucker, Ruddock were also not scared of him and came to fight. The key to beating Tyson was to face a Tyson post Rooney, period especially the one out of jail and from 1999 onwards.

 

The likes of Ribalta, Green, Thomas, Tillis, Tucker and Ruddock couldn't carry Foreman's jockstrap though....

 

Ofcourse they couldnt. Just wanted to dispell the BS that the only way to beat Tyson was not to be scared of him.

 

No one said it was the only way to beat him otherwise I might have used others as an example, but if you have that, and tools to beat him, he could be beaten.

I'm not sure of your age, but I saw Tyson as he grew from a prospect to a champion first hand, I've seen his rise and his fall, and contrary to popular belief he was never unbeatable.

 

This fight could go either way.

 

Tyson because he was so much of a better fighter than George Foreman. Tyson was a fighter in the same breath as Joe Louis and Muhammad Ali a fighter who brought everything back into boxing and took the imagination away from the fans like no other fighter has done in the way he did since. Tyson was definately going to be champion, the wasnt a heavyweight in history who reached a level of prominance so quickly as did Tyson, a precocious athlete the likes of which had never been seen before. Foreman never had a rise to prominence like Tyson had because his talent didn't demand as such. Foreman's reputation was built on two wins; the knockout of Frazier and the destruction of Norton. He wasn't even expected to win the title when he fought Frazier, he was an underdog and he scored the upset. Then after he beat Norton he fought Ali who had him noticably flinching as early as the second round as Alis short, sharp left and snappy right hand lead bounced off his head. Then he virtually conceded the title through exhaustion, he wasn't knocked out cold like Douglas had to do to take the title away from Tyson. Foreman was never good enough to beat the Tyson who knocked out 4 excellent fighters on the bounce like Tyson did with Biggs, Holmes, Tubbs and Spinks. He just destroyed them, he looked like he could be champion for 10 years, everyone felt that, we never had that with George Foreman.
Foreman had a workable left jab and was very powerful but his technique is far inferior to that of Tyson's. Tyson's punches are shorter, more accurate and have much more velocity behind them.
I would imagine Foreman would be missing all over the place and be catching too many hard fast counter shots in return.

 

Yes but on the inside Tyson will get manhandled and pushed away to be set up with a powershot. Interesting fight. Lets be honest, fighters with great chins took plenty of shots from Tyson and Foreman in fights: Pinky, Green, Biggs, Ribalta etc and Peralta, Lyle, Ali. Would we ever see a different gameplan from Tyson if Rooney and Cus were in his corner. Boxing on the backfoot? Prob not. Tyson had a great jab though. Foremans physical strength may be the difference though, or Mike's defense ala Tillis fight. Was there ever an article from ring or any magazine from back in the day with this matchup?

 

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Plus nobody was able a to "manhandle" prime Tyson up close, they were way to concerned getting nailed with ultra quick counterpunches and nasty body shots, even Lewis could not bully the corpse of Tyson he fought around , he was very cautious not to get caught with something up close.

Again 50/50 fight but if Foreman would pull it off he would have been hit the hardest he would have ever been hit .

If Ali can buckle him with single shots than Tyson can turn his lights off, no doubt.

The strength argument, well, Foreman's advantage IMO is the same or at best marginal better than Bruno/Tucker/Ruddock/Smith.

We all know Tyson met some real heavy hitters but what real heavy hitters has Foreman faced ? Please dont say Lyle or washed up alkie ****ey.

 

That was a very rusty Foreman that Lyle fought. He even admitted it after the fight.

 

I feel like boxing fans suspend their knowledge of boxing when it comes to matching Foreman against other elite heavyweights. He had poor stamina and worse defense. He'd lose to most of the best heavyweights from Liston on. He's fortunate to have beaten one of those guys.

 

Jesus Christ, he bullied the hell out of Tyson and even got a point deduction.

He made Tyson his *****..just listen to Tyson after the fight.

But apparently denial's a strong emotion.