Tyson Vs Frazier

If you last past three rounds with Tyson, even in his prime, he is beatable and while it is a dangerous match up for Frazier I actually like Joe. Half the reason he was ambushed by Foreman was utter overconfidence. No one knew what Foreman was capable of before that bout. If Frazier was to fight Tyson I will take a leap of faith that he would know his opponent and be properly warmed up and ready ...

Carefully watch the Tyson bouts, even at his best, and see his weaknesses. Joe's power, his strength, his speed and volume of punches could give Tyson huge fits. While the smart pick is Tyson I would not bet this one ... no way. Definately not a leap of faith pick either way.

 

Tyson KO'd Marvis Frazier in ONE round back in '86.......bbb

MR.BILL

 

I think Mike Tyson was very strong and powerful in his peak years of 1987 to 1989........ Christ, Tyson was still pumped and psyched even in 1991, but his skills were fading out of site by then......... Tyson was strong........

Holy had Tyson's number cuz Mike Tyson never fought a man who was willing to eat a few punches by standing in the pocket looking to return blows with sharp counters.....

BUT! Holy was friggin' juiced in them fights of 1996 and '97.... Tyson may have been experimenting with 'Roids' at the time, but Holy's roid bill must've been insane.......

Notice how Holy actually appeared to be bigger and stronger than Tyson was in both of their fights...... Freaky.... That ain't natural.........

MR.BILLbbb:rasta

 

Iron Mike would be too much for Joe...in my opinion.

 

The early rds are the key and how effective can Joe be with the hook to the body and head. Frazier was vulnerable early but Tyson was still a good puncher for 8-10 rds depending on the pace....Frazier was still a good puncher till the 15th. Key here is how much does Frazier get hit early? How well does he pressure Tyson and fight in close to negate Tyson power? How does Frazier survive Tysons punch? If Frazier can hurt Mike early or stay close like he vs Quarry and smother Mike. I like Mikes ability to take a punch better than Joe but I like Joes ability to get up and fight back with heart. Frazier got off the floor to win but that is something Tyson never did. I am going to pick Mike by a stop but I have to say I picked him to KO Holyfield also and the battle of the hearts was a big issue in that one. Could be an issue here.

 

To quote Harry Carpenter during the first round of Bruno/TysonI; when it is fair to argue Tyson had already jumped the shark:

"Some people have said to me Tyson is as good as Frazier. But watching him live, it is clear to me he is much better."

 

Foreman drained himself. Foreman was much stronger.

 

Frazier gets stopped by the 4th.

He's still game, getting up from the knockdowns, but the ref saves him.

 

The double standards continue. Good to see nothing has changed.

But how could Joe... he can't overcome that 15 lbs of muscle against a two-fisted puncher with better power, speed, accuracy, and durability.

 

Princess, still whining ? You're the Board Broad !

 

Frazier will smother Mike on the inside and push him back. I expect to see him knocked down a few times but get up and continue to pressure Mike and put him on his heels. Fraziers chin is actually very good, getting knocked out by George Foreman isn't an indication of a bad chin and he would overwhelm a discouraged and tired Tyson by the 10th; after taking over from the sixth onwards.

 

Absolutely Mac. Frazier would hit the canvas a couple times within the first 4rds. but after that he would warm to the task and methodically cut Tyson down for a close but unanimous dec. or late KO.

 

stylewise this is trouble for joe. i like frazier more then tyson but one has to be honest. tyson is gonna take this one quit easy.
the only thing joe has over mike is heart (a lot of it) but that ain't enough. tyson is faster then frazier, tyson has more power then frazier, tyson has better defense then frazier. frazier has one way to fight and that is forward.
i don't think that joe can do that against mike, at least not without being KO'ed

 

This is why I'm not so sure ... unlike Foreman, Tyson is not pushing Frazier off to get room to land bombs. Watch the 73 bout and you will see Frazier was still firing deadly bombs with frequency that just missed the much taller Foreman but would have landed hard and often against the much smaller Tyson. Mike could also get tagged early and rocked as he was against Bruno and Tucker ... I really feel if Frazier fights smart he could get past the opening 90 second blitzkrieg and make it a war ... in a war Frazier has the tools to win ...

Smart money on Tyson but it's no lock to me ...