Tyson vs Holmes discussion

He struggled badly against a shot Ray Mercer and he didn't beat Mccall convincingly either. He had more or less become his best package from 1999-2003 where his own right hand power, ring intelligence, defence and everything emanuel steward taught him to make the most out of his height, reach and strength fell into place.

In the Tyson fight his hand speed, power, foot speed, ring intelligence, defence and over all strategy was perfect. Saw no difference between the Lewis of 2002 and the one people say was in his prime from 1998 onwards, in fact he looked even better and as he said it was the hardest he had ever trained for a fight.

Funnily enough people when defending his performance against Vitali claim he was shot and finished in 2003 where i believe it was a combination of not training sufficiently, underestimating his opponent and ring rust after a layoff for a year.

 

Whether he beat Vitali is debatable, that cut is debatable, Vitali was still leading on points, Lewis out of desperation threw the entire kitchen sink at him in Round 4 and 5 and the sky sports commentators mentioned that they never ever saw Lewis so exhausted and out of gas as they did at the end of round 5. Vitali wanted the fight to go on, he didn't throw in the towel, neither did his corner. Out of the 2 you need to take into account that Vitali has never ever been knocked out in his entire career so that again brings into question whether Lewis could have finished him in that fight.

Regardless of the fight, i found Lewis post fight interview to be very cowardly and delusional. Tyson for all his off ring antics has always appreciated a good fight and has shown sportsmanship towards his opponent after the fight is over barring the Holyfield 2 episode. I never saw the same from lewi in his entire career and the fact he was so utterly disrespectful to Vitali after the fight and still continues to talk negatively about certain fighters to this day is just pathetic.

And ofcourse he walked away from a justified rematch using mummy, wify as an excuse ultimately reduced my respect for him. No warrior does that. It was just one more fight, the public was not asking for any more fights from him. Tyson gave Ruddock a rematch even though he won the first fight convincingly and mind you Ruddock back then was regarded as a feared opponent by many.

 

Maybe, but whatever it is, if you're needing a gift decision to beat Carl Williams, and you lose to a light-heavyweight in his first HW fight ... it's safe enough to say that the greatness you possessed has already gone mostly AWOL.

In my opinion.

 

That Carl Williams fight was a very close decision. I am surprised by Holmes didnt fight Pinklon Thomas.

 

It was an awesome performance by Tyson over a guy who would prove to have plenty more in him, and wasn't by any means "shot",...which speaks volumes for Tyson. it's one of Mike's best performances, along with the Pinklon Thomas fight and the torture session with Tyrell Biggs.

 

Tyson was exposed and battered before he went to prison, moron.:roll:atsch

 

Not in Savak's alternative world, because Tyson never really lost to Douglas. The ref was corrupt and the count when Douglas went down was long. Oh and Holmes was in his prime when he fought Tyson too.

 

Alright, following this logic, wasn't Holmes exposed in his fights against Spinks and the fight against Williams which he should have lost? Why are you bringing his 2 years of inactivity for his poor performance against Tyson?

 

A shot Larry Holmes beat a prime Ray Mercer convincingly while your beloved Lenni struggled Life and death against a shot Mercer, and ofcourse the entire world exposed Lenni for the girl he was as Mccall floored him with one shot to the face and a shot Holmes almost won against the same Mccall a few years later. :hi::hi::hi:

 

But Lenni destroyed Tinkerbell Tyson, end of discussion.... :rofl

 

Which the entire world and every knowledgable ****yst knows was a horribly washed up fighter and hence that victory had no significance. Typical of Lenni's legacy, beating up bums and washed up fighters. No other claim to fame.