tyson vs lewis - prime for prime

I don't know who would win, but I do know the why Lewis fought the shot version of Tyson was the perfect way to have beaten him in his prime. I also know that Tyson was much quicker in his prime and had better head movement. If Lewis fights aggressive and could land the uppercuts he was landing against the ancient Tyson, then I think he could win, especially if he keeps using his jab and throws the overhand right in combination with it, but if he fights cautious trying to avoid getting hit, I think he looses.

Certainly Tyson has the better chin, so Lewis would have to hit him enough to soften him up, where as Tyson could end the fight anytime he could land a devastating combination.

The longer the fight goes the more it favors Lewis, unless Lewis is so far behind on points due to knock downs, but that's probably not likely as Tyson would probably be able to finish Lewis off if he had him hurt.

So who wins?

Tyson either wins within the first 3 rounds by KO, or Lewis wins either by late round KO or on points. I'd lean slightly towards Lewis winning but I wouldn't bet huge money on either outcome.

 

It is fair to conclude a peak Lewis does not get Koed-though Mike was not quite peak for the fights you cite. I have no idea why you say that nobody was EVER the superior of Louis in the ring-& I have him as near the top, definitely top 5, all time head to head.

But I really wonder how you could possibly come to the extreme conclusion I highlighted above. Even if you believe Lewis had too many weapons & would win, do you really believe nobody can argue that peak Tyson would not be a huge danger early on? :beat

 

Sorry..i meant would NOT...funny how one word can screw up a whole post....yeah of course Mike is dangerous early.

 

Entaowed....i like most of your posts..but can i just ask...who in your opinion ever 'bettered' ( as in ..was clearly a better fighter) than Lennox in any fight ? Mcall and rahman beat him with flash knockdowns but he avenged both and was a class above...so who did he fight who was better than him ?

 

Vitali Klitchko that lost to Lewis would have killed Douglas, the Douglas that barely survived the 8th round against Tyson...
I concur the Lewis that smashed Grant, Golata, Morrison, and Ruddock, would have kod Douglas or made him Quit...
Yea the same Douglas that kod Tyson..

 

The McCall fight stopped way to soon, Rahman landed a lottery punch to an out of shape Lewis, easy to make excuses for Lewis, just like Tysons fanboys do for him, regarding the Douglas loss:hi:
Really Lewis doesn't need an excuse, he knocked Rahmans head off in the rematch, and made Mcall cry in their rematch..
At least Lennox avenged both of his losses, something Tyson, never could accomplish, he folded like a cheap suit and had a temper tantrum in the Holyfield rematch, when he knew he had no chance of winning, and didn't want anything to do with Lewis after that beatdown, because he knew he would have been, gutted like a pig...

 

Silver skull...i maybe wouldnt have quite phrased it like that...but in sentement you are correct.
Certainly re..mccall and rahman....i am still awaiting for anybody to point out when Lennox fought someone who was clearly a better boxer than him...in a long long career when he took a division and a half on NOBODY bettered him....he was never in a ring with someone who was a better boxer or fighter than he was at that point....not sure if there is another heavyweight who lived who could ever say that ?

 

Lennox would have always beaten him as far as I'm concerned.

 

So whose fault was it that Tyson was sluggish, weight drained, and didn't train right for Douglas, hmmmm , no brainer there huh..
Lewis was out of shape against Rahman, but came back and knocked his head off, then avenged his loss to Mcall by making him cry, I never saw Mike avenge any of his defeats :deal
Who exactly was the best fighter Tyson beat during his prime, from 88-91?? Spinks, Bruno, Ruddock? He could and had an oppurtunity to fight Holyfield in the fall of 91, but chickened out, I would definitely put the guys Lewis beat in his career, over the guys Tyson beat every day of the week, 2x on Sunday..

 

SS, you did not address any of my arguments about your bias, just piled on a separate case. Hopefully you realize then that what I said was all true & you are very one sided.

Now about what you just claimed: Tyson's condition against Douglas was clearly his fault, that is besides the point & uncontested.

I am not aware of Tyson dodging anyone, if you have evidence he chickened out against Holyfield, let's hear it.

We just had a long thread about how good Tyson's competition was-considering where they were in their career-in his prime compared to most prominent HWs. Now Lewis DID have relatively good competition. Better than Tyson WHEN Lewis fought them? That may well be, but then he had a bit longer prime. The quality of who they fought WHEN they fought them on a per fight basis...Not a huige difference either way.

Regardless I argued how good Tyson was at his peak. And how severely declined he was when he fought Lewis many years later.

 

Mark, I appreciate the correction. On the other question, when you said nobody was his equal in the ring, that is ambiguous, I did not know that you meant who he FACED, not comparing him to all boxers ever.

So technically McCall & Rahman were better those nights, though you mean more skilled-factoring in physical abilities & developed skills-overall. Actually you COULD mean just boxing skills, then I would disagree, but add in his physical blessings & I would agree. Except for...

Lewis at his prime was better than Klitchko, but he had lost something, given age & lack of intense training, & that night K-man was better, though the cut reasonably ended the fight.

SS: many fanboys make excuses for their faves. But did you note I did no such thing for Tyson? Explaining how it is very biased to use a fight when one guy was waaaay off as an example of how they would do when the question is PEAK value is only trying to make a sane comparison. Again, if I took Lewis when he shoul've beat McCall & Rahman as an example of how Tyson would win because Lewis looked bad & had a glass chin...

I would be unreasonable. Now weighing all a guy's success & collapses when ranking legacies, that is another story.

Peak Lewis & peak Tyson both clearly beat any version of Douglas.

 

I think it is an all time terrific fight but I just favor Mike .. too fast and too good .. We saw him get to the head time and again against giants like Smith, Tucker even Green and I thnk he'd get to Lennox too .. however it would have to be the absolutely best Mike to Lennox takes him ..