Tyson vs Lewis (primes)

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  1. thesandman

    thesandman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "those 3 animals". The animal Bowe was against Lewis was a chicken.

    Yep, Lewis would have beaten Bowe.

    Steward thought so (before he trained Lewis), and according to him, so did Bowes trainer.

    Lewis would have beaten him the same way as he beat Bowe in the Olympics. By just simply being bigger and stronger.

    Lewis wouldn't have had to take the shots bowe did against Holyfield, that's the point. He wasn't half as easy to hit as Bowe was for a start.

    Bowe is the biggest ****ing myth out there in terms of who was great IMO.
     
  2. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In addition to that, Tyson claimed he was hurt when he went back to his corner. I use to think Tyson would win, but the blue-print Lewis used was perfect and would have worked even in their primes. He used his size and strength advantages extremely, and he used the upper-cut and actually hurt Tyson. That's a formula I don't think Tyson could over come, unless he did so within the first 2-3 rounds. No impossible, but the odds are against it.
     
  3. Beckjl

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    best answer:happy
     
  4. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Are you serious or just young???

    Bowe threw he belt away rather then fight Lewis when he was legally obligated to. And Tyson gave Lewis $4M step aside money to avoid him and fight someone else with a provision that he fight Lewis after that, which he never did. If anyone did any avoiding it was these three against Lewis. And the reason Holyfield didn't fight Lewis was because there was a contract that the winner of the Ruddock -Lewis fight would fight the winner of the Holyfield - Bowe fight. Bowe won and Lewis won, and Bowe (or his management) ducked him.

    This is pretty well known.
     
  5. Vanboxingfan

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    What makes you think Lewis would have to take those shots? Lewis has a much better defense, can fight from range, and has been down a lot less than Tyson and Holyfield during their careers. All you're doing it taking two fights an projecting an outcome rather than looking at the body of work of all of these fighters. When you do that, I think Lewis likely beats Holyfield by decision, and it's about a 50/50 as to who wins between Lewis and Tyson. Certainly the Lewis would ran through Golota and Ruddock could have given Tyson trouble, as could the version who beat Grant and Tua. He, unlike Tyson, had more than one way to win, yet he seems to get punished for not winning the way Tyson did, and Tyson's losses seem to get glossed over, yet Lewis's losses accentuated.
     
  6. p.Townend

    p.Townend Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A prime Tyson wins by ko.
     
  7. Delroc

    Delroc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    tyson KO in 6 or less.
     
  8. Da Chin Chekka

    Da Chin Chekka Chi-Town!!! Full Member

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    And Tyson Was?
     
  9. Da Chin Chekka

    Da Chin Chekka Chi-Town!!! Full Member

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    Tyson taxes that ass like the government...
     
  10. TheGreat

    TheGreat Boxing Junkie banned

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    Lewis beat a SHOT version of Tyson who later went on to lose to McBride or Williams, he didn't have to deal with Tyson's speed or skill, in other words he used his gameplan against a complete shell.
     
  11. footballplayer3

    footballplayer3 Member Full Member

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    a 88 tyson get the win by controlling the center of the ring
     
  12. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're right, my bad.
     
  13. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    True but that wasn't the point I was making, how long would it have taken prime Lewis to take 'that' version of Tyson out, 4-5 rounds?
    Also that Lewis did damage his right hand.
     
  14. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lewis would have destroyed a prime Bowe.

    When a man is mentally broken before getting in the ring it's hopeless. Why do you think Bowe didn't fight him? Exactly, he knew it too.

    Lewis's two defeats were 1) McCall hit him with the perfect shot, only Holmes, Ali and Foreman could have taken that shot imo. Lewis wasn't prime so it's irrelevant.

    2) Unconditioned and out of shape Lewis allowed Rahman to do what he did. Again, not prime.:good

    Everytime people bring up McCall and Rahman I'll bring up Holyfield, Douglas, Williams and Lewis himself. Tyson and Lewis weren't prime for any of those fights.

    Tyson - Douglas = Lewis - McCall
    Tyson - Williams = Lewis - Rahman

    :good
     
  15. EL BULLY

    EL BULLY Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Who would you Tyson fans say was the best fighter Tyson ever beat?

    I honestly think that every time he fought a top guy, he lost.