Tyson Vs Louis (With a twist)?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Fergy, May 7, 2025 at 5:33 AM.


  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Specific era vs era twist
    Joe Louis Vs Mike Tyson but 15 rounds
    And Modern day drug testing protocol s.

    Does the rounds limit or testing change your opinion on the winner
     
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  2. Vutcatus

    Vutcatus New Member Full Member

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    Tyson has a costly style, which uses up oxygen and calories quickly. After three rounds of fire, he begins to go down.
    Louis has a methodical and thoughtful style, preferring to study his opponent.

    Tyson must quickly knock Louis down to win, who starts off a little slowly. Galento and Braddock managed to knock him down, but not finish him. Tyson can do it, but if he doesn't, Louis will destroy him piece by piece.
     
  3. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    WTF.

    You must be thinking about the post-prison Tyson.

    The 80s Tyson is not some used up fighter after 4 rounds.
     
  4. Vutcatus

    Vutcatus New Member Full Member

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    Tyson's style is the one that is expensive. As was Dempsey's, quite similar.
    Dempsey has the record for first round knockouts.
    Tyson is third.
    Formidable in the early rounds, then he starts to decline.
    However, Tyson was beaten before prison by Buster Douglas: Buster Douglas, not Joe Louis.
    His victories were against some good fighters, but no ATG.
    Apart from Holmes, who was 38, had retired two years earlier, he had been beaten twice by M. Spinks.
     
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  5. miketysonbaby

    miketysonbaby Mike Tyson is the Greatest ever. banned Full Member

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    mike tyson baby

    tyson faced a killers row in the strongest era ever, no one can beat mike tyson, mike tyson is the greatest, mike tysons prime apart from the douglas fight is the most destructive human in history, mike tyson is god, mike tyson is life, no one will beat mike tysons youngest ever hw record, and dont you ever dare criticise mike tyson, mike tyson is the most known sportsman ever, mike tyson would knock out anyone in a street fight in a heartbeat, mike tyson baby.
     
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  6. Jakub79

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    Tyson from the Douglas fight probably loses to Carl Williams, Ruddock, Berbick, Tubbs, Holmes, Tucker, Biggs. He may win some fights but he certainly wouldn't have such a series of victories and some of them would hang by a thread..for example 15 hard rounds with Berbick and a close result. Referring to the Douglas fight is like referring to the Lewis-McCall fight - if Oliver knocked him out in the 2nd round then Lyle would do it maybe in the 3rd, why not?
     
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  7. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Lyle, Shavers, Bonavena and Jose Roman KO 3 Lewis
     
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  8. Jakub79

    Jakub79 Active Member Full Member

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    I would never bet on that..out of 10 fights Lewis wins 9 with them, with Roman 10 We all know that. Likewise out of 10 fights Tyson-Douglas Buster won't win even 1. but a person is not a character from a computer game.. in the form of Douglas Tyson before 1990 would have had at least 4 defeats and many of his winning fights would have been difficult, maybe debatable. He would probably be someone like McCall - dangerous for everyone but limited.

    If after the Clay-Doug Jones fight we conducted a poll whether he would beat Joe Louis, what would be the result assuming that we don't know who Ali has become? Who in their right mind would give Clay a chance in a fight with Liston? It's unfair to bring up Douglas in the prime vs. prime topic.
    Holmes from the Tyson fight vs. Tyson from the Douglas fight - I'm betting on Larry, seriously. I think SD, MD would win if the judges were against him.
     
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  9. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Lewis or Louis
     
  10. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Does Mike Tyson get to use a fake dick with his baby’s urine to cheat the drug test like he did in real life?
     
  11. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Both
     
  12. Fergy

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    For me it's a no for both ,against those you mentioned.
     
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  13. Jakub79

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    If he can't then Tyson's chances increase. Cocaine taken during events is a terrible doping agent for an athlete.. absolutely terrible as shown by the careers of Thomas, L Spinks, Tyson, Tucker and many others.
     
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  14. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Yeah. Louis can use it too if he wants. Mike Tyson at this stage wasn't too greedy.
     
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  15. Saintpat

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    I do not trust an athlete who ‘passes’ a drug test by cheating and using a fake dick when he says it was ‘only cocaine.’

    Drug test cheats don’t get any presumption of innocence from PEDs if they admit they cheated on the test — that is, in and of itself, dishonesty, so I can’t take his word for what substances he had used. Maybe it was cocaine but also PEDs.

    I mean, isn’t he literally in a business partnership right now with a company that sells synthetic testosterone and other WADA-banned substances? Wonder how he met PED peddlers … through his cocaine dealer? He’s admitted using these for the Jake Paul ‘fight,’ which ha no stakes for me it’s not hard to figure this wasn’t the first time.