Tyson vs Marciano in their respective primes

Ali trained a lot harder even for Norton than Tyson did for Douglas. The difference between the Tyson of the Spinks fight and the Tyson of the Douglas fight is greater than the difference between the 67 Ali and the Ali that lost to Norton.

Tyson won pretty much every round against Smith who was a champ at the time so that's a good win. He didn't do it looking spectacular but that was because Smith decided to clinch at every opportunity.

 

Tony Tubbs pretty much won Round 1 by staying on the outside but, once he decided to fight Tyson, crowd him and make it a punch-out, Tyson proved he could be brutal inside and crushed him within the end of the second round. And Tubbs was a strong, determined man that Tokyo afternoon.

Tyson knew all the gimmicks (he studied the film) and had better power and variety with both hands, not to mention speed. Marciano would be too slow and predictable.

Of course, the great Marciano never lost, but he never faced a Tyson coming up to take the title. The enigma of Tyson is, with extraordinary talent, preparation and savvy, he conquered his Everest very quickly and, three years later, was more interested in things like fornicating and, like so many who reach the top (the Beatles, Britney [ugh!], to name a couple), simply lost the fire and began to drift. But a Tyson motivated to make Cus' dream come true is kryptonite to the wade-in Marciano.

 

The only guy to relly out box and batterd Marciano, Was Joe Walcott in the first fight, the other fights Marciano handed out one sided beatings. With Charles 1, they both batterd each other, but Charles did not out box the Rock.

 

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Tyson had trouble with guys that took his best and fired back, I think Tyson would also be surprised that Marciano was not so easy to hit without getting hit back. I see this fight vs both in there primes going into the 10th rd with Marciano getting stronger and Tyson getting discourgaged and taking the count as he did in fights vs Williams,Mcbride and Holyfield. Intestanal fortitude and mental strength were Marciano's gifts and they would bring out the opposite in Tyson

 

Tyson easy KO...size,speed, skill's....

 

he wasn't shot but he was going downhill as a fighter. After the Spniks fight, he dropped Rooney, and his skills started to deteriorate. Just watch any fight pre-spinks and any afterwards and the difference is quite obvious.

 

You start out saying "Tyson had superiour power and technique." Accoording to you maybe, but that is not a fact.

You are not asking a question with your post, you're dicking people around. Go dick yourself around.

 

Marciano may have hit harder. Tyson threw better in combos, Marciano threw more, and at better pace. Both had good skills, Marciano gets my edge there. Stamina goes to Marciano, but in head to head match, it may not matter. It would not go long, although if it stays a slugfest past a few, at fast pace, Marciano gets bigger edge. I pick Marciano, but it is no roll over.

 

I agree, Tyson has a round or two chance to end it. The only problem for Tyson? He can't hit hard enough, even in combination, to take out Marciano in 1 or 2.

Rocky starches Tyson's *** ass in the fifth round after grinning at a couple of Tyson combos.

 

I love the Rock, but no way is he just going to shrug off Tyson's best punches. No-one ever did, not for a sustained period anyway.

Marciano poses certain stylistic problems for Tyson, but so too does Tyson for Marciano. Tyson's handspeed will give him the opportunity to counter Rocky when he gets sloppy and starts throwing those looping right hands. Moore did it for a spell, and Tyson almost certainly will.
Only Tyson is much quicker, bigger, and stronger than Moore, and hits substantially harder.

Rocky will be in Tyson's face for as long as the fight lasts. He lacks a world-class jab (actually he lacked a jab full stop) and probably doesn't have the strength to outmuscle Tyson and walk him backward like Holyfield did.
Cuts almost undoubtedly will be a factor too.
I just can't see how Rocky can win.

 

Even the people who could take Tyson's punches suffered badly from them.

Tyson smashed Green's face apart with no gloves.

With gloves he broke a bunch of his teeth out of his mouth.

 

Sure he was still in his prime. What he was, was woefully unprepared for the Douglas fight. You look at the fight and tell me it's the same guy who beat Spinks, Biggs, Holmes etc.

The personal problems outside the ring definitely played it's part in his overall decline. I don't care who you are, eventually all that turmoil, self-inflicted or otherwise, is going to catch up with you.

Rooney leaving (or rather, being booted out) certainly didn't help either.
Look at Tyson's style in '88 compared to say, in 1991. Almost a completely different guy in there. Certainly the mentality was different.

 

No, I dont think I'm being ignorant. It's just my opinion. I've made about three or four detailed posts, that go into my own stylistic analysis of how I see the fight.
I have faith in Marciano overcoming Tyson's early onslaught - as several other fighters did - and fighting back, AND having enough left to start to make inroads when Tyson slows down.

But even Tyson's biggest fans should acknowledge that Tyson slowed down gradually after the first 2 or 3 rounds, sometimes after 2 rounds. Look at the Thomas fight, the Tucker fight (two of his best fights, two of his best opponents). Against Thomas he comes out fierce in round 1, but by round 3 or 4 he's doing less than Thomas. Tyson's fast starts meant he often had to make a gear adjustment when guys didn't fall quick, and often that meant that he slowed down and looked predictable in some rounds. Let's not pretend that he was like the first round in every round.

That's your opinion.
I've covered how I think their styles would mesh in other posts.