Tyson vs. Marciano: The myth of "intagibles"

And how will Tyson stand up to getting hit by a Suzie Q and a few of Rocky hooks and rocky would be inside on Tyson chest and IF tyson committed to throw he would leave himself open to being hit

 

This is a fair post.

 

Tyson was hit by harder punches than Marciano's hooks, and he was never knocked out by single punches, he'll do perfectly well there.
While Marciano never experienced being hit by what Tyson has in his offensive arsenal.

 

Why was Tyson hit by harder shots for sure (beside Lewis perhaps)? Only because he fought some fat guys, who weighed more than Marciano, doesn´t automatically mean, that they hit harder, Senya. You totally overact with the weight- thing...

 

The thing about Marciano, his punches hurt, but that's it. He was not a knockout artist, except for a couple of occasions. Now there are tens of modern heavyweights who's punches hurt just as bad or worse when they hit you. That's the reason there have been so many upsets in the last 25-30 years, if it's a heavyweight fight a knockout can happen any second, coz a lot of them hit like a truck.

 

When Marciano wasn´t a KO- artist, than I really don´t know. He KO´d so many classy opponents with good chins, wherefrom Tyson can only dream... it would be good when here more posters would have also some boxing- practice- knowledge, it´s really getting ridiculous here...

 

It gets ridiculous when some of you seem to think that added weight is never a factor. :huh

 

Who said that weight doesn´t play a factor? But first of all, at HW´s, it´s mostly only fat, so that isn´t really a big advantage. Secondly, a 230 lbs- man doesn´t automatically hits harder than a 200 lbs- man...

 

He was a volume puncher, not a KO-artist. Kind of like a heavyweight Nigel Benn. A KO-artist is someone like Julian Jackson or Gerald McClellan or David Tua or Earnie Shavers.

 

Tell that to Joe Louis, Joe Walcott, Harry Kid Matthews and Rex Layne. Marciano took them out with one or 2 punchings. It was pretty common in the eary years, for the Rock to ko a guy with one punch.

 

Now you´re really getting silly. Shavers? Tua? Sure, they KO´d a lot of bums, washed up contenders and so, but never any great/ very good fighters. There is no discussion neccesary if both could hit, but they were only contenders who KO´d some medciocre fighters...

If I would went pro now with my age, I could also build up a let´s say 25-0-0- record with 24 KO´s with the right opponents (bums or journeymen who get KO´d almost everytime), but that doesn´t mean that I´m a great puncher, compared with ATG´s who fought only the best...

 

A couple of exceptions don't make a difference. Stopping an opponent after you have worn him down gradually, doesn't represent one-punch power.

 

...as opposed to washed-up light heavyweights?

 

No it is sombody like Joe Louis or Jack Dempsey or Mike Tyson.

 

Marciano dose have the highest knockout percentage of any lineal heavyweight champion.

He was a knockout king if not a precision finisher.