Tyson vs Mercer.

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  1. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    We can agree to disagree, 95 Holyfleld was a hell of a lot better fighter than Tyson at that point, 96 pretty much shows this.
     
  2. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    I don't see that happening. He took a massive beating from Holyfield and was stopped on his feet in the 11th.

    Mercer's conditioning in the mid 90s was worse than Tyson's. A rusty Evander rallied late to put The Merciless One on his ass and steal the last rounds.

    He actually had a gut for the Lewis fight and had blown up 14 lbs, if he was in better shape and closed stronger, he would have won that.

    He was even fatter for the Spoon fight in late 96, which was a lackluster performance from him, and I think he lost it. Tyson would have tore this Mercer up.
     
  3. Azzer85

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    True, if Tyson could go 11.5 rounds with an elite fighter like Holyfield (after only fighting 8 competitive rounds in 5 years), im sure he could handle the ordinary Mercer.

    Thats all Mercer was a durable punchbag who'd fight back, but nothing Tyson hadnt seen before or wouldnt be able to handle.

    Tyson should have faced him prior to Holyfield and actually got some rounds in.

    Unlike that idiot Seldon
     
  4. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Did he hell take a massive beating from Holyfield, he was definitely outfought but no way was it a beat down up until the 10th round.

    Thing is you know as well as I do that most fighters came in to fight Tyson in tip top shape, Mercer would have been a real handful for Tyson I have no doubt.
     
  5. The Mongoose

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    Yeah, they wanted to control a title and went after Seldon instead.

    Lewis got Mercer, and that ended up being a confidence boosting fight for him that gave him some hard rounds and sparked his comeback.
     
  6. Azzer85

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    After Holyfield, King had Moorer, Foreman, Mcall, Morrison and Briggs lined up.

    Shame it all fell through. There was a thread on here a few years back that detailed the plan fight by fight. Shame it was taken down.
     
  7. MrPR

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    Beautifully said .

    Yet I lean towards Tyson by split decision .

    It will look similar to Ruddock/Tyson 2 without Mercer kissing the canvas .
     
  8. The Mongoose

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    Ha,

    Moorer for the IBF ended up being Evander's next opponent so makes sense. Any version of Tyson would have took Moorer out. Very winnable fight for him.

    They would have never got Foreman in the ring though. I remember Lewis, Tyson, Holyfield, just about everyone trying to get one more payday out of him in the late 90s and he wouldn't budge, everyone just gave up, ultimately retired to Briggs in a meaningless match. I don't know how many people followed boxing in the 90s here, but all this talk of Foreman's lineage was just that, once Holyfield/Tyson went down...Foreman who?

    Shame, Morrison got the HIV. He just signed a big contract with King, right? I think if that didn't happen, Tyson/Morrison would have still happened. Likely instead of the Botha fight.
     
  9. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Rephrase that Tyson would have never got in the ring with Foreman.
     
  10. Azzer85

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    Here we go with this BS again.

    The Tyson/Foreman story in a nutshell

    Foreman: Ill fight Tyson anytime, ill KO him in 2 rounds.
    Tyson: Ill fight this Foreman guy before he dies of old age
    King: Puts Tyson and Foreman on the same card to promote a future clash.

    Foreman: I didnt sign on the dotted line because i was more scared of King than Tyson.

    Yes, Tyson was the one who was scared of Foreman :patsch
     
  11. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You keep repeating the same bull**** yet you can't back your claims up. Ill school you yet again shall I??

    http://coxscorner.tripod.com/foreman_tyson_fl.html

    http://youtu.be/LMnsE2rSaVg
     
  12. mr. magoo

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    george Foreman only wanted to fight " the heavyweight champion of the world." Prior to Tyson losing to Douglas, George had his sites set on facing him. After Tyson was beaten, Foreman focused on the crown.
     
  13. Wass1985

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    Don't bother explaining that to him, he only can accept things that put Tyson in good light.

    That's not entirely true though because Foreman did actually want Tyson as a send off before he retired in the mid 90's.
     
  14. mr. magoo

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    He may have seen dollar signs in a Tyson fight, and a better chance of beating a diminished form of Mike. But basically his comeback was centered around winning the title. That's what he said from the very beginning
     
  15. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh without a doubt, at that point he had achieved what he wanted and that was to win the title, he wanted Tyson for a big payday before retirement.