Tyson vs Witherspoon prime!

Best mis-spelling of the day; 'Sweat Scientist' :good

 

Okay, I should have spelled it "SWEET SCIENTIST", but technically, he wasn't exactly a SWEAT scientist either, as training wasn't exactly his forte :good

 

Nothing more, Nothing Less :good

 

Witherspoon was not a stamina fighter, and he did not like to be pressured, unfortunatly only Bonecrusher in there 2nd fight went out and put pressure on him. I dont see him handling Tyson type of pressure and I dont see him having finishing power or late stamina if he went past 5

Smith and Tucker, Tillis, Green and those that survived against Mike either ran there asses off or held on for dear life ( They changed Bonecrusher to Boneclutcher after the Tyson fight....Iron Mike did what a great fighter does he stood out in an era, despite his faults and King Stain

 

I agree. Smiths knockout of Witherspoon was a poor mans approach to what Tyson coud bring. Tyson would rip to his body, the hands would come down and boom, Witherspoon would be laying on his back looking at the lights!

 

If Tyson Smith lasted 20 seconds longer Tyson would have been KO'd




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Not

 

It was a nice sneak right hand but Tyson wasnt on ***** street or anything. 8:32




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if witherspoon starts slow tyson ends it in the first 2 rounds .but i see witherspoon making it to the 6th but not really any longer

 

If you want to go through that route fine..


Trevor Berbick- WBC Heavyweight Champion coming off a career peak performance over an Undefeated Pinklon Thomas(Who RING rated over larry holmes).

Larry Holmes- Off for 2 years at 38 years old...but came back in his 40s to beat Ray Mercer and give Evander Holyfield 12 rounds of difficulty. What makes this performance epic is the result. Tyson knocked Larry Out Cold. Never before NOR A DECADE AFTER this tyson knockout loss did holmes ever get stopped.


Tony Tubbs- Former WBA champion still in the prime of his life. 3 years later, a 33 year old Tubbs gave a Prime ATG Riddick Bowe 10 even rounds of fighting in a fighter many thought tubbs won. Take note Tyson knocked Tubbs out COLD with 1 punch making him do a jiggy dance. Tubbs before the tyson fight had never been closed to being stopped. Tubbs had give Tim Witherspoon a practical dead even 15 round fighter just a year earlier.

Michael Spinks- Undefeated Linear Heavyweight Champion and future Hall of Famer who twice beat ATG long reigning heavyweight king Larry Holmes. Spinx had NEVER BEEN KNOCKED DOWN BEFORE. tyson dominates in 91 seconds.

Frank Bruno- A very dangerous top contender who was arguebably BEATING tim witherspoon through 11 rounds. Even after the one sided knockout loss, he went on to give ATG undefeated Lennox Lewis a boxing lesson for 7 rounds and pick up a WBC belt there after.

Carl Williams- A very talented top contender who arguebably got robbed against Undefeated Larry Holmes while still a raw fighter himself. Williams had height, he had a top jab, and he had very solid skills. Tyson demolished him in 1.

 

Knowing Tubbs, I actually thought he came in pretty decent shape for Tyson. He was never a bodybuilder, but he looked pretty sharp. Tyson just caught him with a quick hook and hurt him badly. His trainer was up in the ring before we knew how bad Tubbs was actually hurt.

 

Tubbs was a cagey guy that rarely bit it in those days. He was giving Tyson a good scrap in the first round. The way he shook and then crumbled surprised me some. Tyson really nailed him, and as I said before, Tubbs rarely fell apart back then.

 

Yes, they all looked wonderful on paper. Precisely the reason why some of them were so heavily hyped. But, you can't just take it for face value. You have to read into the circumstances.

Tony Tubbs for example, took 15 months off immediately following the Witherspoon loss. He returned to the ring in 1987 to face 3 obscure journeyman -two of whom took him the distance and one even floored him. Come fight night, he showed up at least 10 lbs over the weight that his contract clearly stated he needed to make..

Carl Williams gave a diminished Holmes all he could handle in 1985, but did little else between then and 1989. He was horribly beaten by a past prime Weaver, and his only win of note afterwards was a decision over an aging Berbick.. He also came into the ring with only 24 bouts in a career that was by then, nearly a decade old..

Michael Spinks was lineal champion when Tyson beat him.. Great!!! So was Jeffries when he fought Johnson. Spinks had fought only once inside of two years, arguably lost against a 36 year old Holmes, and hadn't beaten a contender since. He also showed up for that fight looking about as enthusiastic as a kid going to the oral surgeon to get a tooth pulled.

Larry Holmes indeed came back in his forties, but took a different approach to getting a title shot. This time, he trained specifically for a comeback, fought several journeyman THEN fought a contender in Mercer, THEN fought Holyfield.. Little bit different than coming fresh out of hybernation.

Frank Bruno fought Tyson after being off for 16 months, and his last fight being against a ring worn Bugner. Against Witherspoon, he was coming off of 7 strait wins in about a 20 month time frame, including a first round KO of Coetzee.

Starting to catch the drift of what I'm saying here?

Now, had Tyson fought Tim Witherspoon, chances are it would have been sometime around 1986-1987. Given, that I considered the Smith fight bull**** ( and have said so dozens of times before ), Tyson would have been facing a 29 year old alpha champion in his prime, who had fresh wins over Tubbs, Bruno and several respectable opponents. He also might have been facing a challenger who his own people felt was stylisitically problematic for him..

Does any of this mean that Tyson ducked Spoon personally? No. Does this mean that Spoon would have beaten him? No. Does it even reflect that Spoon would have given him fits? No. But, you can't just make comparison's by taking a handful of a man's best performances and cram them all into one category in an effort to determine the outcome of a match with a man he's never faced. Especially when you consider that the majority of the bunch, ie ( Tucker, Smith, Green, Ribalta, Ruddock, Douglas, Tillis, Biggs etc..), fell into the same grouping and WEREN'T stopped inside of five rounds.........

 

When I speak with Tim at the end of next week I'll directly ask him about what he saw in Tyson that he felt he could use against him when it was generally thought he was in line to face him, circa '87 (before Smith II)