Tyson wanted to retire after the Spinks fight

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  1. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dokes' record was pretty pathetic even b4 Holyfield stopped him .
    Maybe he was extremely avoided , maybe just not good enough , but d rest got plenty of opportunities whereas Dokes did not . So I guess Dokes was just kept away from fighting quality opponents as often as d rest did .
    In no way did he suck more than Weaver had .
    Ruddock's stoppage of Dokes was late in 1990 and does not matter 4 this subject .
    Page and Witherspoon mattered a lot .
    Witherspoon only had that questionable loss 2 James Smith but almost every opponent that Tyson fought until then had at least 1 such a loss .
    Don King steered Dokes , Witherspoon and Page away from contention during that time .
    Incidentally , Larry Holmes , another King fighter was steered away from much needed rematches with Carl Williams and Tim Witherspoon and was kept away from Pinklon Thomas and of course Page and Dokes .
    D pattern is pretty obvious .

    Oliver McCall probably had problems no1 cares about going in2 d Bruno fight and others . Still not a very deserving contender back in 1988 or even 1989 admittedly .
     
  2. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You bought up Dokes, so thats not my problem

    No, Witherspoon fell out of favour with the kings and they blackballed him because he tried to sue them. King didnt want him having anymore paydays rather that what your trying to imply which is that he was somehowe trying to save Tyson from tim witherspoon, which is a load of rubbish

    So basically your trying to imply that King somehow helped Tyson avoid these guys? Neither of these guys had any chance of beating Tyson at all during the 86-89 period.

    Mcall was never that good to begin with, his whole career consists of a one punch Ko over Lennox Lewis.
     
  3. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    U ruled him out and i explained that he was simply kept away from competing at world level during Tyson's rise 2 fame and his reign .

    Guess who was responsible 4 it ?

    And what about d time b4 Tyson was managed by King ?

    Yes , Tyson and Holmes .

    Your opinion .
    Fact is that McCall , Page and James Broad all KDd Tyson in sparing .
    Witherspoon's and arguably Dokes' and Page's records were better than Douglas' by d time he entered d ring against Tyson .

    Douglas was d obvious waiting 2 happen , had it not been him it would have been some1 else and not because of Tyson's acclaimed "deterioration" .

    Douglas was not d only 1 whom could have done what he did .
    Some1 else might have well done it without d long count .

    And Akinwande and Maskaev and a decision over Jesse Fergusson , and these were not d only notable opponents which he fought .

    Since no1 watched his split decision losses 2 Tucker & Norris , it is fair 2 assume that he deserved at least 2 draws in these fights .

    Also McCall did better than Tyson against Lewis and Douglas , and possibly against Tucker as well .

    Then he did better than Douglas and Mercer against Jesse Fergusson , and possibly better than Norris as well .

    2 some his stoppages over Seldon and Damiani matter as well .

    Tyson was so gr8 that he needed 2 elbow almost every1 and then immediately clinch so he would not have 2 get hit in re2rn .

    Such was his 4midability .
     
  4. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  5. Peter__1987

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    Terrible, just god awful post.
     
  6. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just repeating my reply 2 your previous post which u chose 2 ignore :

    U ruled him out and i explained that he was simply kept away from competing at world level during Tyson's rise 2 fame and his reign .

    Guess who was responsible 4 it ?


    And what about d time b4 Tyson was managed by King ?


    Yes , Tyson and Holmes .


    Your opinion .
    Fact is that McCall , Page and James Broad all KDd Tyson in sparing .
    Witherspoon's and arguably Dokes' and Page's records were better than Douglas' by d time he entered d ring against Tyson .

    Douglas was d obvious waiting 2 happen , had it not been him it would have been some1 else and not because of Tyson's acclaimed "deterioration" .

    Douglas was not d only 1 whom could have done what he did .
    Some1 else might have well done it without d long count .


    And Akinwande and Maskaev and a decision over Jesse Fergusson , and these were not d only notable opponents which he fought .

    Since no1 watched his split decision losses 2 Tucker & Norris , it is fair 2 assume that he deserved at least 2 draws in these fights .

    McCall was Lewis' age , Tyson was younger than both of them .

    McCall stopped a prime Lewis , Tyson was KOd by Lewis while Lewis was near d end of his own career .

    a much better achievement than looking 4 your mouthpiece while lying on your back on d canvas staring at d stars shining so bright , yes .

    not 2 mention McCall was also competitive against Douglas .

    This is true , however Mercer outdid Tyson by far against both Holyfield & Lewis

    D fact that u ignore his constant fouling and its huge benefits shows u r n idiot , or worse , a "Stevie G" .
     
  7. A boxing yarn. Still, I'm sure many do wish the end of their career is at the peak of their dream, condition and achievement. As kids rising through the ranks and during long heavy bag work and sparring sessions, I don't think they want to imagine about the trip down hill too much. Many fights after that is just work and money. Try to keep the partying at a sensible level
     
  8. Peter__1987

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  9. SP_Mauler

    SP_Mauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson retiring after Spinks in my opinion would have gone down as the greatest of all time. He had it all and more. He had the greatest defense in heavy weight history, Offensively he was able to move in like no other HW as ever done and he had the power and speed to finish his opponents in 1 hit, He made Berbick,Spinks,Holmes all look like journeymen and bums. No other HW has won titles at such ease and I believe never will.
     
  10. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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