Tyson-Williams stoppage.

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  1. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Do you think the stoppage in the Mike Tyson-Carl Williams fight was premature? I don't think so. Williams went down HARD from that Tyson hook. He could have been badly hurt if the fight continued.
     
  2. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It was premature, but I think Tyson would finish Williams right after anyway.
     
  3. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Williams would have gone right back down to the canvas if the fight continued.
     
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  4. Overhand94

    Overhand94 Active Member Full Member

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    I can understand why the stoppage could be seen as premature, but the problem is that Williams did not react correctly when the referee asked him if he wanted to continue.
    So I agree with the OP.
     
  5. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If he didn't react correctly, that's a pretty good sign he was disoriented.
     
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  6. PolishAssasin

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    It was similar in Chavez vs Taylor.
     
  7. Fergy

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    There was a bit of controversy over it at the time, Williams saying it was called of to fast.
    Even if the ref let's it go on then seconds later Tyson gets him again imo.
     
  8. Overhand94

    Overhand94 Active Member Full Member

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    Yes, I completely agree with you guys.
     
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  9. Pugguy

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    Yes, Williams didn’t react correctly - that’s objective fact so it was a fair stoppage.

    However, my speculative/subjective take is that Williams could’ve responded properly and continued but him not reacting was his “out”’ - when he protested immediately after the ref called it, I viewed that as Williams trying to save face.
     
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  10. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tyson has said some of his fights were fixed and the opponents didn’t know it but the ref was in on it.

    Given that bit of information, it looks a bit fishy.
     
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  11. VG_Addict

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    His way of saying "He didn't actually beat me". Let's be real, he wasn't going to beat Tyson anyway.
     
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  12. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Well that’s one way to look at it but more fundamentally, it was his way of surrendering - forcing the ref’s hand by not complying but then protesting a second later to suggest he was willing to continue.

    IIRC, for as brief as it was, Williams wasn’t doing too badly until Mike’s single peach of a left hook from down under sat him down.

    I personally think that while Williams might’ve at least been able to continue, that one punch took all the fight out of him and he didn’t want anymore.
     
  13. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Look at Williams' face after getting knocked down. He's thinking, "I've made a terrible mistake!".
     
  14. mr. magoo

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    Agreed. He looked like he was dazed and slow to respond to Randy Neuman’s inspection
     
  15. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This. Williams was done. He couldn’t even look directly at the ref and and when the referee lifted his arms Williams gave no response, so the ref would’ve been crazy to let him continue.