Tyson would have beaten George Foreman and heres why!

So you brushed right by handspeed and decided to focus on chin to put Tyson over Foreman?

Foreman had a better chin than Tyson.

 

Disagree with almost all of the TS' statements. Foreman stops Tyson early, even Cus thought so.

 

The biggest factor here is Tyson's mindset. I don't think he was too interested in fighting George at any time, 1974 or 1990. Therefore...game over

 

The problem is the style. Mike was a sharper puncher than George but not a harder puncher. George was stronger. If this fight went any sort of distance it would be very close to the Bonecrusher fight where they are separated and Mike moves his head to get inside and George tries to land the uppercut and they clinch. I just think the style is an advantage to George who was strong and could take a decent punch long enough to land punches on Mike. George would not have been backing up, it would have been a test on both of them and the stronger guy would win.

 

Agree with all of this.

Pathetic thread, dismal poster.

 

LMAO at the Tyson nuthuggers. Bottom line is Tyson lost every fight that mattered, Tyson was just a step above a bum.

Prime or old fat Foreman would have KO's Tyson in 2 or less.

 

Tyson's defense was fundamentally sound. Very good mechanics, well schooled.

It wasn't, however, well timed or effective. Tyson got hit. A lot. Even by bums he blew away.

Tyson doesn't beat Foreman because he can't do what he needs to win: Avoid getting hit early and often. If Jesse Ferguson can land every other uppercut and right hand he threw early, I think George can connect with at least a similar frequency, and I don't think any heavyweight in history can absorb flush bombs from Foreman and not suffer serious adverse effects. Ali managed it, but he took his worst licks to the body, and fought entirely on the defensive. Tyson would be eat the big **** trying to come in and throw.

It's a fun fight, and Tyson is a beast, but there is such a thing as a nuclear style disadvantage. Ask Joe Frazier.

 

Damn straight.

 

i've never considered foreman really slow like everyone else does...he wasnt that slow

 

Ferguson was landing uppercuts on the inside, not at "Foreman range". Tyson's main weakness, outside of his lack of height and reach, was his weak inside game. He was too easy to tie up and would just fall asleep as soon as someone tried. But Foreman had no inside game himself and I doubt he would be looking to tie up Tyson every second like Bonehugger Smith.

Tyson got hit but so did Foreman. Foreman's defense ain't ****. Frazier was landing left hooks and jabs on him until he got hurt. What happens if Tyson is able to time Foreman's wide swings and they miss? I can just see Foreman getting hit flush with bombs. If Jimmy Young can hurt Foreman, Tyson can take him out.

I don't think you can just put Tyson's head on Frazier's body like it would be exactly the same. Tyson was in many ways better and more dangerous than Frazier. He was two handed, had better two-handed speed and power, and was physically stronger than Frazier. Frazier also bounced around a lot, which made it easier for Foreman to shove him around.

 

I've always believed that prime Tyson beats prime Foreman. Yes Foreman destroyed Frazier, BUT a prime Tyson was a COMPLETELY different fighter than Frazier. Tyson's head movement was much more sophisticated and scientific. Tyson also starts out much faster and throws combinations much faster. So using the Frazier logic in a Tyson vs Foreman debate just isn't realistic.
I think a prime Tyson's movement could easily make Foreman's wide swings miss, and once Foreman misses, Tyson could counter with lightning-fast combos, and since Foreman didn't have good head movement he'll get tagged. Tyson just had too much speed, skill, and movement for Foreman to handle.
I also never believed that bs about Cus telling Tyson that he can't beat Foreman..... Cus would never tell Tyson anything to jeopardize his confidence.