somebody ban this troll. bums and old guys? these are the guys that lewis and holy were beating years later. you think that lewis/tyson is somehow relevant to how rooney trained tyson would react to guys with a jab and no fear. what an assclown.
I too have been a lifelong "Tyson Basher" but I have to laugh at your statement..."he would beat many of todays heavys". I think it's safe to say that he would DESTROY ALL of today's heavies. The cream of the crop, Wlad Klitschko, would absolutely crumble against Tyson. Ironic Mike would be a stylistic nightmare for Klitschko and the rest of the bunch. I do not like "prime" Tyson's chances against the likes of Muhammad Ali, Joe Louis, Lennox Lewis, Prime Larry Holmes or George Foreman. I also see "prime" Mike struggling against Evander Holyfield. More interesting and debatable matchups would be Joe Frazier, Rocky Marciano or Jack Dempsey.
I too have been a lifelong "Tyson Basher" but I have to laugh at your statement..."he would beat many of todays heavys". I think it's safe to say that he would DESTROY ALL of today's heavies. The cream of the crop, Wlad Klitschko, would absolutely crumble against Tyson. Ironic Mike would be a stylistic nightmare for Klitschko and the rest of the bunch. I do not like "prime" Tyson's chances against the likes of Muhammad Ali, Joe Louis, Lennox Lewis, Prime Larry Holmes or George Foreman. I also see "prime" Mike struggling against Evander Holyfield. More interesting and debatable matchups would be Joe Frazier, Rocky Marciano or Jack Dempsey.
ooooh, touchy! Funny how you mention its merely MY OPINION, but still manage to get upset enough to call me a cocksucker and a ****in wimp, even though you know absolutely nothing about me. I see Tyson bashing brings out the little girl in you all huh :hi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS4F18b80wc&feature=related Still have the same view? Show me a heavy that ever looked like that...:deal
Tyson had a similar fighting style to Frazier except that Tyson had power in both hands, and didn't just rely on his jab and left hook to win a fight. Frazier said it himself that if he couldn't land his left hook, he wouldn't win the fight. Tyson could beat you with uppercuts, right hands, pretty much anything that touched you was lethal. Not only that but his defense was perfected for his particular style and his handspeed was unbelieveable. Can you name one heavyweight in history that threw faster combinations than Tyson? Sure, Tyson isn't going to beat you on the outside if you're Holmes or Ali, but once he gets inside and starts ripping combos to your body and head, it will take its toll and eventually you'll fall. Head to head, Tyson might be the greatest heavyweight of all time with the exception of maybe Ali. Against Ali though, I would give Tyson a 50/50 chance, and if Ali did manage to win he would take a beating like he's never taken before. If Lewis fought Tyson in his prime, it would be TIMBER for Lewis. Lewis beat everyman he faced, but he also got KOed by people that had no business knocking him out. Holmes, I would give him maybe 50/50 chance because he was a hard mother ****er. Foreman might actually have better odds of beating Tyson, but Tyson's movement and versatility combined with Foreman's chin may win the fight for him. I just don't see how Tyson is overrated.
I fully agree with your post, Tyson was the reason I got into Boxing, the man was the most exciting fighter of his generation, just check the PPV numbers, they dont lie. A prime Tyson would be more than handful for any of the great Heavyweights, I only favor Ali over him H2H.
Thanks for sharing your two cents about this. Now we have about 4 million cents about this whole "Tyson always folded when he faught guys who were not intimidated!" debacle. And if I may add, you seem to know very little about boxing in general, so your opinion on Mike's career is pretty bizarre. Can you honestly say Bonecrusher, Tucker, Thomas and Ruddock among many were afraid? Mike was 20 ****ing years old, as a heavyweight champion, remember what you did at your 21st birthday? surely wasn't holding a party with the titles in your possession Mike was one of a kind, I can almost promise you that there will never be anyone younger than him as a Heavyweight champion, ever again.