@Tyson_Fury the world now sees you for the fraud you are.

Moronic fanboy threads like this are tiresome, shut up about this fight until it's made. Both men are just talking crap at this point. Neither is scared of the other either too, stop acting like elite level professional boxers fear each other.

 

Look, Hearn for months, 6 months has been saying "any day now" and other little teases like "it's all agreed.... in principle".

Hearn says what sets him apart is his eye for detail, leaving no stone unturned, Hearn also says he goes that extra mile for his fighters and make sure everything is in order.. that he goes through contracts one line at a time with his fighters.

Hearn also has had slight digs at Bob Arum in interviews over the last year or two, alluding to his old age and how he is a little errr unpredictable.

And I'm now suppose to believe that after securing a site fee, negotiating with the Saudi Royal Family, setting everything up, contracts flying around and all that money involved... that Hearn just took the word of an old man that's unpredictable?

Hearn didn't check, double check and ask every possible question about the biggest threat to this fight being made?

I'm not having it, Hearn said he was the one doing all the work, nobody else was helping him, when he made the fight he would be "unbearable".

But the moment it goes sideways Hearn says "nothing to do with me" and walks away.

And then the Matchroom spin machine goes in to full force.. they are all out from AJ to Tony's Bellew saying exactly the same things they said about Wilder when Hearn couldn't get that over the line.

I find it amazing Fury and Wilder can fight twice but Hearn can't get AJ in the ring with either but it's always everybody else's fault.

Hearn is a great salesman but he has failed to deliver AJ what he ultimately wants and by not making 100% sure this fight could go ahead he has also been rather arrogant and also negligent.

In my opinion Hearn looks foolish, he either didn't see or ignored the biggest threat to this fight.. or even worse took the word of an old man who is unpredictable.

Maybe Hearn thought the size of the fight, the money involved and his profile within boxing would get it past the arbitration ... well he was wrong.

And now I have to listen to the Matchroom Cult go full defensive mode because their Lord Edward has given a 7 minute interview on his own YouTube channel where he went full Shaggy and said "it wasnt me".

 

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But who's fault is it that the fight fell through ? Not Hearn. If Fury at least tried to negotiate with Wilder about the step aside money and going into the Aj fight before saying he'll fight him a third time then that would be understandable. Hearn didn't deliver but from the looks of it, it's because Arum played him, or at least Fury did

 

We all knew this judgment was going to happen, we knew for months Wilder had lodged an objection and was trying to forced Fury in to another fight.

It's not as if suddenly out of the blue, Wilder popped up with an objection, this has been coming for long time.

This was in judgement before any negotiations had begun between Fury and AJ.

But.. People just dismissed Wilder, they questioned his mental health (which was fair by some of his actions) and people on social media and forums all turned legal experts and threw his case out because well.. he lost, they wanted him to be irrelevant and they also wanted to.

So if we all knew this was a potential problem, Fury and Arum knew then Hearn also knew.

Hearn has repeatedly said he was going out alone to do all these deals, securing site fees, talking to Royal families, having interview after interview proudly saying he was doing this alone.


But now I'm expected to believe this is all Fury's fault, Fury KNEW the outcome would be in Wilder favour and he did all this just look as if he wanted to fight AJ...

And Hearn was somehow blindsided by an issue that he was fully aware of but he took the word of a 90 year old man that apparently smokes weed all day and has a strange relationship with the truth?

I'm sorry I'm not buying, you wouldn't take the word of a 90 year old pot head who has a history of lying if you were buying a car... this was a 150 million deal, it wasn't a joke and the main stumbling block should have been addressed way before you got that far.

 

Well if Fury did know the outcome as you claim and just did all this for shits and giggles it's pretty sad. He could have just fought Wilder again ealier this year. If that truly is the case he held it up

 

I didn't claim that, maybe I worded it wrong... I said I'm being expected to believe Fury knew..

I missed "and that" in that sentence, I apologise.



Because that's what people are saying, they are saying that Fury went to all this trouble, all this messing around knowing all along he wasn't going to fight AJ.

Why would be bother? What would be the point? What would be his gain?

Fury's number 1 in the division, lineal champ, regarded as the best in the division and his profile and reputation are at their highest.

And Fury would risk his reputation just to poke AJ and Hearn in the eye? No, it doesn't make any sense.

 

I myself don't believe Fury went through all that trouble. But it could easily be the promotion team. Bob Arum claimed the rematch clause expired. How wrong he was. But it is possible Fury knew this to be a likely outcome. Fury in the past did say he could fight Wilder next during the Aj fight negotiations

 

Exactly, Firy said he could be fighting Wilder next.. because there was a judgement to be made.

Fury was saying exactly what we all knew, an arbitrator could rule in Wilders favour.



But now I'm expected to believe Hearn was told by a 90 year old pothead is was all OK and he believed him, without any reservations or a closer look at the case.

Come on, either Eddie is smart and sharp or he is a complete moron?

 

Well we dont know. Arum isn't smart but he had far more knowledge on the comtract details than Hearn and claimed the rematch clause expired regardless of the pandemic.

 

If me and you were making this fight, it's a huge deal, you are negotiating with Royal Families, securing site fees, dealing with TV companies and so on and so on

You are out there, your reputation on the line, you are doing all this alone.

And me, well I'm an old pothead who has told many lies, in fact a famous quote of mine is "I lied yesterday but I'll telling the truth today" and you ask me "is everything going to be Ok with that arbitration"

And I say "yeah, sure, no problem"


Are you telling me you'd just say OK and carry on doing everything else, or would you ask for a look at it, ask to speak to a legal team, push it a little bit knowing this could collapse everything if it goes Wilders way?

That's all I'm saying, Hearn can't walk away from this like he is some wronged promoter trying to do his best for boxing and it's everybody else's fault.

He knew, Arum knew, Fury knew, AJ knew, we all knew Wilder had taken this to arbitration, this wasn't a surprise.. it wasn't a shock.

Hearn though arrogance and negligence went ahead with all those negotiations and deals and assumed everything would be OK and now it's gone boobs up, he does a 7 minute interview, says it's nothing to do with him and has vanished again.

And people are coming out defending him like he was conned or something, it's outrageous to be honest, Hearn knew this was a possibility and was happy to claim credit for the fight happening but will accept no blame now it isn't.

 

Honestly, I am not gonna lie to you Mr K, it's a little bit of both

 

Because it doesn't have anything to do with him. Thats Wilder and Furys problem. When Oleksandr Usyk tried to force Aj to fight him, it was seen as a threat to the potential undisputed, it had nothing to do with Fury or Arum though. Arum had far more knowledge of the contract and had claimed time and time again Wilders obligations to a third fight had nothing to stand on.

If we're going to blame somebody, it's going to be Arum, not Hearn. You may blame Hearn for hyping up what eventually became nothing. But this isn't his fault