Tysons Early Demise

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  1. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He lost Cus and everything in his management began to change. It's all well documented, there is no mystery in this. If Tyson's management had remained the same, he would have been as close to an unbeatable fighter as humanly possible.
     
  2. H .

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    this and Don King :-(
     
  3. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Tyson was surrounded by terrible people, everyone he had with him was there to steal some even the people in his house(wife and her trash mother). The man lost the desire too early and I can't blame him for it.
     
  4. Scar

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    His wife signed him with King. When Jacobs died they didn't know what to do and his wife was taking charge so they ditched Cayton for King. King didn't need to work hard enough to get Robin Givens to sign either, she was THAT easy and pathetic.
     
  5. Arka

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    Maybe.

    There are the usual childhood rumours. That his mother was a crackwhore ,who every night would bring home a different man to have sex with .
    That Tyson,himself, was raped in juvenile detention.


    In the ring, he wanted his opponent to feel the same pain and humiliation he had experienced in his early life-if only for a moment .Likewise,outside the ring he took pleasure in degrading and hurting women. When he was weak other people took advantage of him.He learnt this lesson .So he did not hesitate to take advantage of others.


    Certainly the absent of a parental figure hurt him.Cus and later,to a certain extent, Jim Jacobs played the father figure role. I think the reason Tyson was obsessed with Robin Givens, was that he saw in her a combination of madonna and *****. She reminded him of his mother.


    When the responsible guiding authority figures disappeared from his life ,Tyson found a certain psychological security by retreating behind this seemingly invincible and vicious persona "Iron Mike". But "Iron Mike" was just a mask .A mask that ate away his soul and left him fighting from memory.


    As an adult,he simply didn't have the foundations of personality and inner conviction to develop as a boxer or for that matter as a human being.
     
  6. ripcity

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    The passing of his mentors Cus D'Matto and Jimmy Jacobs allowed Don King to get to him. Leaving Kiven Roony hurt him as well. He beleved too much in his power and not enough in his defense.
     
  7. mrbassie

    mrbassie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've known Muslims who are complete thugs, drinkers, dope smokers and dealers, thieves, racists.
     
  8. IronG

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    death of Cus, Robin Givens, going to jail
     
  9. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    brownsville brother, emotional midget maybe but he was/is a tough guy.
    discipline i think is th emain thing. he wanted to do it his own way but wouldnt step on the toes of cus,his mum, his managment etc. also when he won the title his management fell apart.....your on top of the world without anyone on your back...thats full self-empowerment there. without that support and guidance he fell apart....don king i think cemented his anger image which didnt help.


    jail,****,gibbons were effects, they didnt help but they were not the cause of his anger, nor the cause of his bad training habits and his awol style.


    don king let a bull into a bullring...
     
  10. lion

    lion Active Member Full Member

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    who gives a dam whom you known? did i ask you anything? shut the **** up
     
  11. BUDW

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  12. BUDW

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    LOL, lets see Honor killings, blaming the women in a ****, cutting hostages heads off, flying planes into buildings, bombing market places with women and children being slaughtered yea thats pure alright pure EVIL!
     
  13. Vantage_West

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    yeah why the muslim question came up is crazy. if he became a christian, hebrew isrealite, 5% we would be talking about the same mike tyson.

    religeon did give him some sollace. most of his entourage he was surrounded with were muslim(darryl buam),hebrew isrelites (judahs), 5%(dundee),christian (aaron snowell) , moneyism (donald king)
     
  14. lion

    lion Active Member Full Member

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    how about americans killing 100.000s people? or christian priests ****ing young boys? filthy lowlife infidels...
     
  15. Arka

    Arka New Member Full Member

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    Way to derail the thread,Guys. :roll:





    I knew it was a mistake to post in the General Forum..... :-(