Tysons Punching Power vs Foremans power

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  1. superman1986

    superman1986 Active Member banned Full Member

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    It seems to me they had different kinds of power. Tyson's seemed to be more sudden and explosive. Where as Foremans seemed to be more blunt and hurtful.

    It seemed like Tyson's power could leave you unconscious and put you out of your misery. Foremans power would leave you fully awake all right, but curled up in the fetal position wishing you were unconscious while shaking in utter hurt. See Joe Roman for more details.

    I'd say Joe Louis and Mike Tyson had similar kinds of that explosive power while Liston and Shavers had that hurtful, clubbing power native to George Foreman.
     
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  2. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What an explosive fight Tyson and Foreman would be. Even the older Foreman, might have been too strong for Mike physically..
     
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  3. Radrook

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    Ali himself admitted that he would not have been able to withstand a Prime Tyson power. In contrast, Ali withstood the power of Foreman for almost the entire fight before knocking him out.


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    Joe Roman was hit while sitting stunned on the canvass with back against the ropes! A fair more accurate example would be Michael Moorer who was shaking with his eyes open and unable to move as you describe.

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    The difference between a punch that stuns you and one hat knocks you out cold is that the one that knocks you out cold carries more power. Also, if Ali was able to KO Foreman, then it's logical to conclude that Tyson would have put him to sleep in the early rounds if he connected flush..

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    Foreman starched Roman just let it go.

    Also, saying Tyson starches Foreman early may or may not be true but it will start nuclear war around here.
     
  6. TBI

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    Its difficult classifying power, and you're right- they do have different effects.

    Foreman had few one-punch KO's, where Tyson had plenty.

    So much has to do with the opponent, and most of it is arbitrary mysterious physics and variables we'll never know.

    I view Foreman as a triples-hitter kind of puncher, where Tyson was more of a home-run hitter.

    Triples hitters are capable of one-punch KO's, as are singles and doubles type hitters, but increasingly rare up the chain.

    Foreman had clubbing, thudding punches, where Tyson had sharp, precision bombs.

    Likewise I always equated Tyson and Louis as very similar in delivery, arsenal, and effect, which could translate as devastating knockout or punching all night with average effect. It happens.

    Who was more effective? That boils down to the opponent. Both are equally scary.
     
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  7. Radrook

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    Starching while hittng a man while down? :risas3:

    That's called cheating. Learn to live with it. As for my opinion not sitting right with folks around here-to be honest-I really don't give a frog's fat ass one way or the other. So don't flatter yourself. I call a spade a spade regardless of ethnicity or race. You on the other hand are obviously biased. Otherwise you would admit the obvious. But since it doesn't suit your racial agenda you feign blindness.
     
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  8. JohnThomas1

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    When he was better in control of his faculties Ali said he would have fought Tyson a bit like how he fought Foreman. He said he would have tired him before upping the ante.
     
  9. Radrook

    Radrook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think you are confusing Parkinson's with Alzheimer's.
     
  10. superman1986

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    What racial agenda?? You're coming out of left field!
     
  11. Radrook

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    Why else would you be justifying Foreman hitting a man while the man is sitting on the canvass with his back on the ropes and calling it a starching?Even Foreman himself called hitting someone while down unacceptable in his later years when viewing a fight. He had obviously matured during his stint as a minister.
     
  12. reznick

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    Foreman punched harder.
    Tysons speed and angles gave his opponents less opportunity to brace.
     
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  13. JohnThomas1

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    Well regardless that is what Ali said. He said lots of things, like Foreman. None of them have anything to do with how he'd actually do in the ring with Tyson.
     
  14. Radrook

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    True, he could have been trying to be diplomatic in appreciation for what Tyson did to Holmés as Tyson had promised.
     
  15. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Too many on these boards are complete amateurs. There was no controversy concerning Foremans bout with Roman....none. Why make things up in an effort to change history? 40 plus year old history. Prime Foreman would have stopped the best Tyson early. A crouching attacking opponent was prime Foremans meat. Prime Ali stops Tyson within 10 rounds. Competitive early then Tyson is outclassed.
     
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