u guys who think dirrell is faking know nothing about real fighting.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by donizhere, Oct 27, 2010.


  1. donizhere

    donizhere Well-Known Member Full Member

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    try tapping very hard the end of your chin with the back of your Wrist, and try fairly hard.

    see how sensitive it is? its connected to the skull and shakes the brain


    there is no such thing as taking a punch clean to the chin from a power puncher.

    really disgusts me people who think he was faking, fighters roll with punches when there standing, dirrell couldnt when he was on the ground.

    Glen Mcclellan is blind in both eyes and permantly brain injured from punches that shake the brain.
     
  2. Medicine

    Medicine Boxing Addict banned

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    Another thing to add is how brutal a punch is when you dont see it coming. If you see a punch coming even for a slight second naturally your neck muscles will tighten up and lighten the impact of the punch a bit. If you don't see that shot coming you will not be tensed up and when you are hit your head will snap around in all kinds of directions.

    I never could figure out if Dirrell was faking or not, but I can say from the replay is that he had no clue that shot was coming.
     
  3. 8count

    8count sidekick Full Member

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    it's direll's decision. it is his health.
    we have to respect that.
     
  4. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Is this **** still being talked about?
     
  5. dubace

    dubace Well-Known Member Full Member

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    people know he's not faking. they just some abraham nut huggin bitches. ****in groupies. i hate people defend people who act like fighters they like can do no wrong.
     
  6. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think everyone who doubts Dirrell, knows what a knockout is.

    He took better punches during the fight too, like the one which knocked him down.
     
  7. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Not to disprove your point, but yhe McClellan issue is a bad example.
    Gerald McClellan has those injuries because of lack of oxygen towards the brain, so a lot of braincells died... the punches were only responsible for the oxygen issue, but not directly for the injuries. He could have had totally different injuries due to the same issue, worse or less.

    That Dirrell took a big shot isn't the question also. But I think the biggest issue here is the soap that went on before Dirrell pulled out with brain issues... It looks pretty convenient, and that's why people question him.
    If he came up with it in other circumstances, nobody would doubt him.
     
  8. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Anyone who doubts that this is a serious injury should get his head examined .

    How long does Dirrell have to get cleared to fight again ??If thats still an option .
     
  9. The-Beast

    The-Beast Free Boo Radley Full Member

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    The same people who claim Abraham is the P4P hardest puncher in boxing also claim Dirrell was faking. I cannot wrap my ****ing head around that one no matter how hard I try:patsch
     
  10. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    even abraham said that this punch was not hard at all, he said it was nothing near his ko punches
     
  11. MTB79

    MTB79 Active Member Full Member

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    He is a cheat or a glass jawed fraud. You take your pick.
     
  12. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    I still have my suspicions...the Abraham punch was not a tap like some people have said, but it wasn't a full blown shot either, or even close to a full blown shot. Dirrell didn't see the punch coming which doesn't help.

    However, his reaction is something I can't get over...it's a very delayed reaction, and even then he wasn't knocked unconscious, yet (if he was faking) tries to make it look like he was knocked out...the twitches and head movement really didn't help convince me either. It's as if he took a second after the punch landed and grabbed his opportunity...Abraham was getting closer after all.

    I still stand by what I said after the Dirrell v Ward bout was cancelled...Dirrell may actually have serious, and hopefully not long term damage from the "KO" punch...but he also may have found himself the perfect excuse not to fight his "good friend".
     
  13. Jacko

    Jacko Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think we have to give Dirrel the benefit of the doubt. Innocent until proven guilty and all that.

    The problem i have with people saying he faked it is the 'evidence' they put forth. The main points being that the KO punch didn't look that hard and the reaction of Dirrel.

    I believe the punch was quite hard as AA did seem to put a bit into it and Dirrel did not see it coming. Ok, it may not have been AA's hardest punch but in boxing we don't deal in certainties. I have seen guys take monstrous shots of hard hitters before and have walked right through them and then i have seen the same guy get floored, wobbled and even ko'ed by lighter hitters throwing shots that did not look nearly as devastating. Each punch is different. It's effects on the receiver are judged by a combination of power, speed, where it lands on the opponent, if the opponent is prepared for the shot and the opponents state (stanima, chin, etc) before the shot lands. So to say Dirrel took harder shots before the KO punch is mute. Yes they may have looked harder but Dirrel would have been ready for them plus Dirrel was obviously more tired by the time of the KO as he had fought 11 hard rounds.

    As for Dirrel's reaction proving he was faking it. That is also not evidence and also follows the line that i mentioned above; there are no certainties in boxing. If you have watched boxing long enough (and maybe even seen everyday people getting concussed) you will know that there is not a certain way to act when getting KO'ed.

    Dirrel is an easy target because he is seen as a runner, especially since the Stevens and Froch fights, but people need to put their dislike of him aside and try and remain objective.
     
  14. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    I actually became a fan of Dirrell after the Froch bout...but even I am still suspicious.

    If we forget the reaction to the "KO" punch. The Dirrell v Ward bout was clearly not happening, neither boxer wanted it...they couldn't settle on a location, and neither had even started a training camp. Do you not think it is convenient that all of a sudden Dirrell has had to pull out because of neurological damage...blaming the Abraham punch?

    Let's say that Abraham's foul punch (because whether Dirrell faked it or not,it was a foul punch)...hadn't happened, and Dirrell went on to pick up a wide UD. What would Dirrell's excuse be to pull out of the tournament? Fake a different injury?
     
  15. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think he was faking it.

    But here's the irony of the whole situation: after stating he's 100% recovered and ready, Dirrell pulls out of the 'buddy fight' that was never ever started to get made, claiming nerve problems something no doctor can check, and saying that AA should be kicked out of the tournament. And with the pullout, letting Sakio Bika to fight his buddy, the same Bika who's coming from a DQ loss because he hit his opponent on the floor. :patsch