U.K fighters

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Proud Warrior, Jun 18, 2007.


  1. Proud Warrior

    Proud Warrior Well-Known Member banned

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    Why why why do top u.k fighters get lots of preassure to fight in the states? If JC or Hatton win at home it was because of the home advantage.Mayweather said he would never fight in manchester but why should british fighters have to go over there? I know Ricky wanted to fight over there and become big in the states when he could of made more money fighting at the MEN in front of 22,000 fans.
     
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    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    I agree, Mayweather never left the United States, did RJJ ever either? Why does Calzaghe or Hatton get criticised for it then?
     
  4. Smazz20

    Smazz20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I can't believe the criticism any fighter gets for wanting to fight at home. I mean, does it really make that much of a difference? Would Calzaghe of lost to Sheika, Mitchell, Brewer, or Lacy if the fights were in America?

    Would Eastman have fared better against BHOP if they had fougt in London? It's a pointless argument. A fighter wants to earn as much money as possible in a fight, so why shouldnt they want to fight at home were more people will go to watch them?
     
  5. Nico

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    I don't think the main criticism is about them only fighting in England. But for me, I would rather they face off against better competition than they had been doing at the domestic level. Before Hatton fought Tszyu, he had been beating up on a bunch of guys at the M.E.N. that I had never heard of, and I couldn't get excited about him facing off against people that he was almost certainly going to KO.
     
  6. the_what

    the_what Bolo Punch KO Full Member

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    It isnt about where they fight. But who they fight.
     
  7. Proud Warrior

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    Tacki,Pep,Phillips,Oliviera,Maggie. His first big domestic fight was against a very respectable John Thaxton.Alot of these fights Hatton had to fight with his eyes cut bad and he just got on with it,never easy!
     
  8. Vantage_West

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    if your a world champion the world should come to you
     
  9. digiram

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    If you want World Wide recognition and DLH money, you gotta do it in the country that pays DLH that money....

    If they are happy with what they can get in England, then so be it. Just don't run around expecting that all top level opponents have to go to England to fight their top dogs.

    Who was the champ, Hatton or Zoo??? Where did they fight??? I agree that it made monetary sense for the fight to happen in England, but that just isn't always gonna be the case.
     
  10. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's the same reason an American Muy Thai fighter has to go to Thailand to be the best. The same reason an American Judo fighter has to fight in Japan to be the best.

    The USA historically has the best fighters. It's not so much the case now, but historically it is.
     
  11. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That is more to do with the the fan base for those sports in Asia.
     
  12. BigEars

    BigEars Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Actually in the case of Hatton he will always make more money fighting in Manchester . For instance Hatton v Mayweather could probably sell out the City of Manchester Stadium(over 47,000 capacity) , while in America they wouldn't get over 20,000 .
     
  13. Club Fighter

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    Because all the things that should matter to a boxer (money, recognition, quality opposition) are all in the states. It's really quite simple actually.
     
  14. Jack

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    Money? No ****ing chance. If Calzage fought Hopkins, Taylor or anyone else in America tommorow, neither fighter would get as much money as they would in the UK. "Calzaghe" is a guarenteed 30,000 sellout. Plus, most of the money comes from the PPV deal which is not effected by the location of the fight.

    Recognition? Yes, but not always. It's not guarenteed, but it helps.

    Quality opposition? No. Most fighters fight anywhere. When you get to the top level, there isn't many fighters to choose from and all those should travel anywhere. On a lower level, asbolutely.

    I don't agree with this statement, but if you think Hatton ducked Mayweather, then tere is just as much strength in saying "Mayweather ducked Hatton". He rejected a fight i the Uk. Hatton rejected a fight in america. Both times there was good money on the table. et hatton gets vilified for "ducking" PBF :-(
     
  15. Club Fighter

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    The PPV deal is affected by the location of the fight unless things are put on time delay. Live in the UK is different from live in the States. It's a time zone thing. Since the States have a whole helluva lot more people than you it would make sense to cater to the time zone of the largest market (states) and inconvenience the smallest (uk) because that's where you'll get the most PPV buys.

    Nah, actually it's always. I'll put it like this, no American fighter ever has to go to the UK to become large.

    That's the operative word, should. You're talking theoretically, I'm talking realistically. Fighters don't like to fight in the UK because of your notorious hometown decisions (although they're not as bad as Germany's), so they don't. I agree with you, they should. They should fight there, in Africa, Asia, South America, anywhere on Earth so long as they claim to be World Champion. But the fact remains that they don't unless circumstances in their career force them to.

    That's because Hatton had said he wasn't ready for Mayweather at one point although he was World Champion, the man, as many Brits claim, because he beat the man. So answer me this: How the hell can one consider himself world champion and then say he's not ready to fight a prospective opponent in his weight class? That is not the true pedigree of a World Champion. Sounds as if he was trying to hold on to a belt that he knew didn't belong to him. Picture Mayweather holding a belt and claiming he's not ready to fight another man in his same weight class. Unfathomable, despicable even. But that's your Manchester Mexican for you. All hype, no minerals. :conf