U wanna make RIGO exciting? Throw him in wit Mexicans!

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  1. El Chicano

    El Chicano Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Jhonny Gonzalez,Montiel, Salido, Mares/Ponce/Leo (If possible)

    Those guys ALL bring it and are legit pressure fighters. U think they will fight scared/timid once they get countered like Nonito did? Fawk no! They will continue pressuring until they are stopped or stop Rigo! It would make for exciting fights and MAKE Rigos work rate go up!
     
  2. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    He will school them and guys like you will cry "boring". Nothing new.
     
  3. lefhooker

    lefhooker Member Full Member

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    ..gIVE hIM tHE cHAANE I tHINK AT lEAST SOME 0NE BRING OUT MORE OF RIGO!!hE WILL BE EXICITNG,LOOK AT HIS ko RECORD...they hATING ON HIM CUZ hE WHOOP ON P4P HYPEJOB FRAUD!!
     
  4. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :deal LOL!

    He sounds like Rigo has never learned how to deal with a pressure fighter before. :lol:
     
  5. lester proctor

    lester proctor Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's a good idea, but most of those are FW and Rigo said he's not going up, 124 max. So you're left with GBP's SC and Montiel who's too small, washed up, and not a pressure fighter. It's really slim pickings when Vic is probably your best option
     
  6. prelude

    prelude Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The only way to make him more exciting is to take his running shoes away, otherwise run Rigo run.
     
  7. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    Yep.
     
  8. SouthpawJab

    SouthpawJab On his way up!! 4-0!! Full Member

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    It's not his movement. It's that he doesn't throw any punches. There's no way to make a guy a star if he spends most of the fight doing nothing.
     
  9. JM22

    JM22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I can't remember a pressure fighter Rigo has fought that is good as Salido or Mares hell even De Leon, Can you refresh my memory?:D
     
  10. JM22

    JM22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just because he "schooled" Nonito that doesn't mean he will school any fighter he faces, people like you seem to forget Nonito looked like crap beating Vasquez Jr, another thing your forgetting is that styles make fights, a tough/smart pressure fighter is the way to give hell to a master boxer like Rigo.
     
  11. Rock0052

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    I've got Rigo's back but I'm also a realist. I've posted on this before, but it bears repeating.

    The current way he operates isn't going to get him the opportunities his skill warrants. It's not fair, but the way the business works, a 32 year old Cuban technician is already facing an uphill battle. It didn't matter a few years ago that Sergio Martinez had everything going for him besides being old and "the other guy" from Argentina instead of the house fighter. Those two drawbacks were enough. They still robbed him and he faced an uphill battle to earn his spot as one of the premier fighters in the game. It came later in his career than it should've because he was too easy to ignore despite having a fan-friendly style.

    Would Sergio have faced such hurdles if he was 25 from Chicago, LA, or Brooklyn? Of course not. Being an older fighter from Argentina, he had to do more.

    Rigo's in a spot where winning handily isn't enough because his skill value is too high relative to his name value. He's going to have to open up and take more chances to put on more exciting fights in the future, otherwise HBO and Top Rank will be all too happy to let the old dog keep aging on the sidelines.

    I'm a fan of Rigo, but I'm realistic about what he's up against. Those who are so stubborn or in denial as to suggest he can maximize his career fighting the exact same way going forward aren't grasping his economic need to win HBO and the casual fan over. Just winning isn't good enough.

    It's about style points now. And it's an immediate issue, because the powers that be are looking for any reason they can find to just let him rot on the vine, which is one reason why Nonito Donaire was only 2 rounds away from winning that fight on the cards. If nothing else, what Rigo's going through can at least shed light to fans that this has been happening for years now.
     
  12. NeckBreaknAiken

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    There are some real differences in Rigo and Martinez that are also worth weighing...


    #1 - Rigo is with Arum, while Martinez is with Dibella.
    #2 - Rigo is fighting at a lower weight which is a lot less appealing to average viewers
    #3 - Rigo is a black Cuban, while Martinez is a white Argentinian. There is a clear difference.
     
  13. Scar

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    It's the other way around actually. A master boxer is the way to give hell to a tough/smart pressure fighter. Though one thing is for sure, when both styles collide it's exciting as hell. At least exciting to me.
     
  14. Rock0052

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    #1 - the biggest issue. Lou fought tooth and nail for Sergio and honestly, has done as good a job promoting him as anyone could've. Arum seems to only begrudgingly, at best, push Rigo. He's missed opportunities to build Guillermo a following.

    #2 also plays a role. Middleweight is a prestige division, no doubt about it. Still, Sergio was getting robbed against Cintron and was treated as the other guy for the fighters HBO really wanted to push, which were Paul Williams and Pavlik.

    #3 Theoretically, that should be an advantage for Rigo since there's more Cuban expats in the U.S. and Cubans have a better boxing reputation here. That Arum hasn't capitalized more on that goes back to #1.

    At the end of the day, I see more similarities than differences between the two cases. I also see similarities to what Don King did with Kotelnik and how HBO treated Pirog. While none of those cases were exactly like what Rigo's doing, the overall principle is the same- those guys had to do 150% for a break, and even then, they paid a price for showing up the house fighter- as is Rigo now.

    He's going to have to fight his next fight like he lost against Donaire and it might be his last chance, because it might be. The powers that be are looking for any reason they can to let his career rot on the vine instead of pushing a 32 year old bantamweight whose skill far outweighs his name value.
     
  15. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Of those fighters you list only Salido and Montiel are possible fights.

    Montiel has fallen off dramatically since he was on the top 10 P4P list in 2010, and Salido also is at the lowest point of his career for good couple years. Montiel at this point is a worse win/fight than Darchinyan would be...