UFC 158 GSP vs Diaz Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

why do people say nick diaz has a good stand up game? his boxing never looks that good when i see him. he is slow and telegraphs his punches a lot.

am surprised these guys aren't better at boxing considering how much they train in it. but maybe i am expecting too much being much more of a boxing fan.

 

It's called a delusion. A lot of Diaz fans seem to suffer from it.

 

Hendricks could well waste GSP IMO. GSP has lost some explosiveness since his injury, Nick stuffed his shots a couple of times as the bout went on. Hendricks is quick, clealy posesses a solid chin, and I'm not sure if GSP can hold a shot as well as notoriously iron chinned Condit can.

I know Hendricks didn't look brilliant against Koscheck but I think he's looked very good in his last two. Of course, if GSP can still get himself through another top challenge like this I wouldn't be surprised, his grappling when he gets his man down is still unreal and as quick as Hendricks is, his looping punching style will see him get the Georges jab of death as much as he has success backing the champ' up with it.

This fight absolutely has to happen next. Terrific stylistic clash, and if Nick's unorthodox striking was praised by many going in, now St. Pierre is going to have to fight the hardest puncher in the division.

Silva would absolutely decimate GSP, let's leave that alone shall we.

 

Max Baer is jarring to a boxing fan. Sung-Kil Moon and Saensak Muangsurin were cavemen. With 4oz gloves it's not always the textbook style that wins out.

In this instance it was. Clearly. GSP's jab is very pleasing to me, as a boxing fan.

 

Hype. He has a high work rate and can break down his opponents once he gets going, but he's only effective if the guy he's fighting lets himself get cornered and hit repeatedly. Look at the Condit fight. All Condit did was keep distance and reset to the center of the cage every time that he ran out of space, and Diaz had no idea how to deal with it. That's what the taunting is about. He's incapable of cutting off the cage, so he tries to get his opponents to lose their cool so that they they'll play his game.

 

GSP is so impressive. Hes in a stacked division, with endless top contenders, yet he remains the man

 

MMA guys cannot strike as effectively as boxers and k1 guys (obviously) but the reason is they have to bare in mind a guy might shoot and take him down, they have to be ready for a greater range of attack. If Diaz started taking a better boxing stance and was popping shoulder rolls he'd get took down easily.

 

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Good wins for both Ellenberger and Hendricks and Diaz to to surprise got dominated.

Would like to have Ellenberger vs Hendricks but i suppose its Hendricks turn at the title now

 

this is the sport that's taking over boxing?!?

 

I basically agree with this. Lets not overrate boxing here in the realms of unrestricted striking as it seems a few if the last posters have done. Most boxing fans just don't realise how different and difficult stand up striking becomes with the addition of kicks, knees and elbows, its a whole other world to the restricted and predictable world if boxing striking let alone throwing the ground game into the mix.

If he took a more regular boxing stance not only would he be taken down by grapplers quicker but quality MT/K1 based MMA guys would not only work of his lead leg they'd ****in decimate his lead leg!:yep

 

Or accusing him of telepathy or something.

"I don't know how he knew what I was going to do before I did it... :blood"

Because he was playing high-stakes poker and you were playing Go Fish, Nick.

Yes. He always rambles, though.

 

Exactly some people just don't have an understanding of whats going on in there.

 

Even though GSP is dominating he looks to be slow since his injury.

 

How hold on a second. GSP stood with Diaz and boxed him half of the fight. GSP wanted to beat nick at his own game and I'd say he did. GSP outboxed the boxer. Diaz had a good minute in I think it was the 3rd round and fuked GSPs face up a bit but the rest was mostly GSP. GSPs jab kept diaz from getting set most of the time, his jab alone won the boxing war. Give credit to GSP, he could've lied on him every round for every second. GSP wasn't really commiting to alot of his takedowns, he wanted to keep it standing for much of the fight to prove a point to nick, that he could box just as good!