UFC champ Brock Lesnar LOL

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by conditioner101, Jul 11, 2009.


  1. kflex101

    kflex101 Active Member Full Member

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    I agree Lesnar (from at least what he has showed so far) wouldn't make much of a boxer, just like Klitchko wouldn't make a good strong man, or an MMA fighter for that matter.
    As it happens, MMA is the kind of sport that suits large guys who are very strong who know how to apply those skills well.

    I have no interest in rating Lesnar as a boxer, it's not his sport and he has never claimed it would suit him. Does that detract from his ability as an MMA fighter? obviously not.
    The fact he is quite unskilled with his fists, yet has come as far as he has so quickly is an even biger credit to him.

    We all have to get out of this habit of suggesting that as he doesn't have a nice fighting style and amongst other things wouldn't make a good boxer, it somehow makes him less worthwhile in what he is doing.
    Many boxers are good at nothing else, all they have to be good at is boxing, who rate Lesnar under some other criteria that has buggar all application to him?

    Regarding his punching power, against both Courture and Mir he has showed a unique ability to generate a lot of power - and damaging punches from positions where many people struggle to.
     
  2. PolishPummler

    PolishPummler Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Brock becoming Champ is not good for the credibility of MMA fighters sorry.

    Good for making money though.
     
  3. cdnboxing

    cdnboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why wouldnt an incredible athlete sculpted like a greek god not be able to successfully transition to MMA? In case you missed it but athletes like Mir, Sylvia, Rothwell, Nelson, Monson are among the best HWs in MMA. And they are nowhere near the athlete of a Klitscko.

    He didnt finish anybody. He knocked down Heath Herring but Herring recovered well and was never hurt. Couture got knocked down and Lesnar beat him down with an accumulation of hammer fists. Mir took numerous punches from Lesnar on his back in the first fight and in the second fight and was never knocked out, he was definitely hurt in the 2nd fight but not out cold.

    Lesnar simply has not shown KO power.

    Lesnar deserves credit, Its shown what ive known all along, athleticism and size matters.

    Lastly, im not discrediting Lesnar because he sucks on his feet. And yes, some boxers are only good at boxing. But Lesnar is only good at grappling and hes UFC champion.
     
  4. Rangersfan1982

    Rangersfan1982 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Being spoon fed very average and shot opposition is for from being an awesome achievement. I honestly do question your logic on this. As I said he's doing ok in a poor division. Nothing more.
     
  5. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Put a Klit in a cage with Lesnar, bring a body bag.
     
  6. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You know nothing of technical ground wrestling (not BJJ) if you didn't see skill in Lesnars win, he is not just strong, he is technical in his wrestling.
     
  7. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fact remains and always will, MMA fighters are better FIGHTERS than boxers.

    When a boxer gets pissed off and wants to hurt the other guy, he resorts to things other than boxing, because he knows it works.
     
  8. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Every person he has fought in the UFC has had or fought for a world title.

    He is the best athlete in combat sports.

    If this was 1000bc, He would be the king caveman, and thats what sports is all about, finding the alpha male.

    No basketball player is gonna run his mouth to Lesnaer, they would end up dead, same for rugby, football, baseball, you name it.

    Lesnar is the Alpha male of the sports world, and everybody seems to be jealous because they are not alpha males themselves.
     
  9. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How many goals has Klitschko scored in Serie A? Who gives a **** how Lesnar would do as a boxer, its not important. He wants to be the best fighter, and the best boxers are not that, period, end of discussion.

    It doesn't matter, the point is to win the fight, Brock did it.

    For the record he broke Heath Herrings orbital bone with the first bunch of the fight.
     
  10. batang kanto

    batang kanto ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    the undertaker would bury him alive and lex luger would use him for a human barbel Lol.
     
  11. cdnboxing

    cdnboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Did you see Lesnar on his feet? Lesnar looked completely uncomfortable. Frank Mir of all people came within inches of landing shots on Lesnar. I cringe to see what Klit would do if given the same opportunity.

    Dont get me wrong, i'd obviously pick Lesnar but you just cant ignore a threat like Klit. Those dudes hit harder than anybody in the god damn planet.

    What?

    Geez, not you again. Did you see Mercer/Sylvia?

    That is absolutely ridiculous. No hes not. The guy is all brute strength, has poor footwork, slow hand speed and cant anticipate punches well.

    Wow, he'd beat a rugby or basketball player in MMA? Is that really breaking news? You really think people didnt know that?

    Oh jesus, not this again. Lesnar is trying to become the best MMA'er.

    And I never discredited Brock because he cant fight on the feet, I simply pointed out the obvious, that Brock would indeed be hopeless as a boxer because he CANNOT fight on the feet, hes terrible at it.

    Who the hell cares if he broke his orbital bone. Orbital breaks arent rare. And Herring was hardly hurt by that punch and he recovered nicely. Brock simply is not a powerful puncher because he hasnt shown he is on the feet. People have taken his punches and recovered nicely from it.
     
  12. cdnboxing

    cdnboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Beebs, this topic is not about boxing vs MMA. Its about Brock Lesnar who is the champion of the best MMA organization in the world. 3 years ago this guy was jumping off turnbuckles and giving people sharpshooters, now hes the undisputed UFC HW champion.

    Regardless of how you look at it, its completely embarassing. Because many, many people always claimed MMA was a sport where skill beats size. Despite numerous examples proving the opposite. Lesnar is nowhere near a complete "fighter" not even close. Hes not even a good BJJ practitioner, hes what many claim is maybe at purple belt level. What he is, is a great athlete with a massive frame with good wrestling credentials. Every single fight hes won, hes won by simply being the bigger man, by overpowering people while mixing in some of his wrestling ability. Hes not "wowing" anybody with his technique. And hes far from a technical fighter. What he did to beat Mir were basic fundamentals, nothing more.
     
  13. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    Yeah, for Lesner becomes he comes straight in with his chin up.
     
  14. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    Forget about Beebs. He's one of those guys that people call Million Dollar Baby cuz he hits like a girl.

    So he has to go to the ground in a sexual position with a man to win.

    It's win at all costs for this man. He'll even have gay sex to do it.
     
  15. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    OH ****...

    The sirens are blaring in San Fransisco.