Basically, if you're ascared to get hit, and you got homosexual tendencies, you'll take a guy down and try to put your dick in his face or whatever you gotta do to win. Most mother ****ers would tap out in this situation because it's gay as **** to be down with some gay guy on the ground with your shirt off. Most MMA guys are in MMA cuz they hit like bitches or they don't have any athleticism and look sloppy as ****, thus are scared of gettin hit. Hope that helps.
I could not see an mma/k-1 fighter do well as an elite boxer either.. I could not see a Remy Bonjasky become a top 10 heavyweight contender in the boxing ring either.. a Remy Bonjasky would not get a fight against any of the top heavyweights.. He would be KO'd without even becoming a contender.. yet Ray Mercer/Frans Botha cross over to k-1 and automatically get fights against the top elite k-1 fighters? The only fighter from k-1 that i could see doing well as a heavyweight would be Jerome Lebanner as he was actually signed to Don King back in the day. i see Jerome using boxing in k-1 most of the time, i have seen him win most of his fights by KO using boxing skills with the occasional leg kicks. Of course the most powerful blow that can be lander is a knee shot, the knee is obviously very hard.. but the fact is, you can get more punches in to a mans head than you can a knee, a decent boxer can fire off 10 heavy power punchers in around 5 secs compared to you trying to grapple your way in whilst taking a beating to your head trying to deliver one knee shot..
would you call ray mercer an elite boxer? He has fought the best. holyfield lewis. when he went to k-1 he couldn't win ****. same goes for holyfield and lewis. If they went to k-1 they would be nothing
How the hell a boxer going to throw a punch while he's in the clinch? A boxer has nothing when 2 fighters body are up against each other. Check this video out. Look at how many times they clinch up. You telling me that a mma fighter or a kickboxer won't take advantage of that. If mercer was a mma fighter and it was a street fight. lewis would have lost http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5dmI7_n-Jc&feature=related
man, why post a video of Ray Mercer v Musashi as an example? Ray Mercer is well past his prime and in that video he did not show one glimpse of ability as a hw boxer back in the 1990's.. He looks like a washed up fossil and he has absolutely no agility in that video.. The Ray Mercer that KO'd Tommy Morrison and gave Lennox Lewis trouble back in the 1990's would destroy this Musashi character.. Ray Mercer was very tough back in the day and could take punishment to give it twice as hard.. The 6'5'', impressively athletic and agile Lennox Lewis would not do well in k-1?
clinching is a tool used mostly by heavyweight boxers to throw some heavy uppercuts and hooks in, i know all about kickboxers/muay thai, they try to get their knee's in.. but i'm sure smart elite boxers like Lennox Lewis who was very intelligent in the ring would not recieve any kind of knee's in a clinch, you think some kickboxer is going to work is way into a clinch a land knees to Lewis? how do they get past his long, heavy piston-like jab? how do they avoid those Lewis hooks? and if they do get in close, how do they avoid that monster uppercut?
same way mercer got past his hands. did you see the video? you see how many times they clinch up??? like i said. if mercer was a mma fighter in a street fighter against lewis. the fight would be over kick and wouldn't have lasted ten rounds
man, you mma cats are fcking delirious, Ray Mercer was a very good boxer back then, way back in the 90's.. he was a top 10 contender, of course he would know how to get into a clinch with Lennox Lewis.. you think your Musashi could get into a clinch with a prime Lewis? put a street fighter in there with a prime Lewis.. You think he would last 1 round? What is a kickboxer like Musashi or Remy Bonjasky going to do in real heavyweight boxing contest?
wrestling somebody to the ground and then grounding and pounding him is the most ***** tactic there is.. guys that don't know how to throw a punch like a man have to resort to those tactics.. Many guys have tried to get in and wrestle me down in street fights and what not, but they can't succeed when they are eating my punches like it's part of their nutritional diet
The only Rey Mercer fight you didn't post was the one where he knocks Tim Sylvia the **** out in a MMA fight. Now don't get me wrong I'm a huge MMA fan, but to say MMA wins 100% of the time is short sighted and obviously utterly bias on your part. A UFC fighter (or more correctly, a mixed martial artists) does not have everything a boxer has, boxer's will always have a higher level of punching then a MMA fighter simply because that's all they train. You made a comment on using knees, well first you need to have a good clinch game and it's not as easy as Anderson Silva makes it look. It takes a great deal of strength and skill to control the head to use knees effectively.
Well there's no rules in a street fight, what will you do if some day someone takes you down and beats the snot out of you? Say they didn't really win the fight because going to the ground is a ***** act? Newsflash champ, they imposed there will upon you using nothing but their body, that in my book is a legit arse kicking. Now using weapons, multiple attackers, fighting someone half your size are ***** acts.
Actually, Royce wasn't considered the best Brazilian Jiu Jitsu practicioner. Not even in his family. One of the best in the world? Yes, most likely. For his weight class. In the vast majority of his fights, he was physically weaker and heavily outweighed and still won. But, was he the best? Absolutely not. I wouldn't even say top 10. (No, I couldn't name the other 9, but one of them would be his brother Rickson)
Also, you need to clarify the Original Post. Do you mean in an actual street fight where anything is "legal"? In a boxing match? In an MMA fight? In a street fight with no eye gouges or small joint manipulation? For any reasonable answer, clarification is needed. Too many possible scenarios.
Not this again. In MMA, a good-elite MMA'er has the advantage and should win. But as Mercer/Sylvia showed, you come in with a wrong gameplan you're going to get lit up by the boxer. In boxing, an MMA'er will lose everytime to a good-elite boxer. They have no chance regardless of what gameplan they employ.