UFC GOAT CONVO

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by StussyBrownnn, Dec 6, 2021.

Who is your goat?

  1. Jon Jones

    4 vote(s)
    25.0%
  2. Khabib

    2 vote(s)
    12.5%
  3. Demetrius Johnson

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. McGregor

    1 vote(s)
    6.3%
  5. Anderson Silva

    1 vote(s)
    6.3%
  6. GSP

    9 vote(s)
    56.3%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. StussyBrownnn

    StussyBrownnn Member Full Member

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  2. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    GSP

    Beat every man he ever fought. Made the most significant improvements in overall skill set during his career. Dominated the toughest division in the UFC for many years. No robberies, PED controversies or criminal record.
     
  3. Francis75

    Francis75 FAB 4 Full Member

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    GSP is the best fighter that has appeared in the ufc imo.

    Also LOL at putting Conor in the voting list. He's nowhere near the conversation.
     
  4. Raj_Patel

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    He's a two division champion w/ KOs across three weight classes. He has a better record than GSP. No one on that list would have beaten prime Aldo. Conor did it in 13 seconds.

    GSP was murked by Matt Serra. He needed Vaseline to beat Penn. He literally needed to be greased up so Penn would be more gentle on him.

    I would remove everyone except Conor and GSP from the list. Replace them with Edgar, Penn, Sherk, Aldo, Dillashaw, and Cruz. Maybe Frank Shamrock, Matt Hughes Liddle and Royce Gracie, since it's an All-Time list.

    Outside of the UFC (and in it) you gotta consider guys like Henderson, Fedor, Vochanchyn, CroCop and Shogun.
     
  5. Raj_Patel

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    He lost to Penn. Most of his opponents were half his size.

    Hughes would be a Lightweight. Penn would be a Featherweight. Sherk would be a Bantamweight. Roided out or not, Hendricks chased him away from the sport, and that "win" for GSP aged poorly.
     
  6. Francis75

    Francis75 FAB 4 Full Member

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    What are Conor's elite level wins above 145 other than Eddie Alvarez ? He left 145 over 6 years ago now. Name the elite wins in those 6 plus years.

    Conor was excellent at 145 and has only been average above. Conor was only a champ at 155 because the ufc plays favourites. He never defended at 145 then went up going 1-1 with the non elite Nate Diaz and he gets a title shot. GTFO. Conor would never earn a shot above 145 because he simply COULD NOT put together enough wins to earn a shot. Can you imagine Conor winning 5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12 in a row like other guys have to ? He can't.at 155 he's simply not good enough.
     
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  7. Raj_Patel

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    Beating Nate at 170 is more than Khabib has ever done.

    Conor could win that many fights if he were a ***** who held out in a single division fighting scrubs.

    Look what happened to Max when he went up to fight Poirier at 155.

    Look what happened to Khabib when he fought Tibau.
     
  8. Francis75

    Francis75 FAB 4 Full Member

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    So you consider Conor getting stopped by Nate and STRUGGLING to win a 5 rd decision against Nate something to elevate his resume/career ? In your opinion what would Nate-Khabib look like ?
     
  9. Joe.Boxer

    Joe.Boxer Chinchecker Full Member

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    Every new champion is the latest potential GOAT. Joke sport.
     
  10. Raj_Patel

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    Yes. Only an idiot wouldn't.

    I am not so sure what fault you see in that.

    The one time Khabib fought someone his own size, Tibau, he lost. Even those he's a former Welterweight like GSP, and regulalry failed to make the Lw limit, Khabib wanted GSP to meet him at a made up weight class: 165 lbs. And didn't make the challenge until GSP began fighting at Middleweight. Everyone knows GSP couldn't survive that weight cut.

    St. Pierre was KO'd by Serra and needed Vaseline to beat Penn. For years there were demands for a Super Fight with Anderson Silva. GSP was active but passed. Then, after getting retired by Johnny Hendricks (a poor man's Chad Mendes) GSP finally decided he really DID want to be a Two-Weight Champion.... when Michael Bisping held the title.

    So yeah, tell me how losing to a fighter two divisions larger than yourself on short notice - and then avenging it, is a knock on someone's career.
     
  11. Raj_Patel

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    Joke sport that no other athletes could hope to compete in. Well, not at Hw. Elite Boxers could make the transition.

    But technically, Boxing is a combat sport. Not as practical as Jujitsu or Wrestling or Kickboxing, but it still tests men's toughness, discipline and athleticism in a way that team sports don't.

    Who's the best athlete in the world? Lewandowski? Gronkowski? Watt? Trout?

    You are your really confident any of those guys can handle kicked in the head?

    Is your house a joke? Would you bet your house on it?
     
  12. shanemfr

    shanemfr Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Only an idiot would. You are clearly one of them delusional clueless McTapper fans .

    Diaz is average AF especially at 170 and your picking the life and death win over him as a GOAT performance. Diaz isn't 2 divisions larger. He is a 155lber. He goes to 170 due to being lazy and a money grab.

    Go Away.
     
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  13. Tug Wilson Tactics

    Tug Wilson Tactics New Member Full Member

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    Props on waiting for him to not be able to defend himself before replying.
     
  14. shanemfr

    shanemfr Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Defend himself with more clueless stupidity of Conor nut hugging?

    But thanks for your useless input champ.
     
  15. Tug Wilson Tactics

    Tug Wilson Tactics New Member Full Member

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    I think it would have been an evenly matched flamewar since you two are both on the same spectrum. I wanted to read 10 pages worth of rehashed Conor McGregor catchphrases and Reddit-tier "McTapper" insults.