UFC on Fox on the same day as Pacquiao vs Marquez

Doesn't matter how they did it, they did it. They're pioneers.

 

Very nice way of putting it.

And with this Fox deal, Dana White has surely been confirmed as the most influential figure in MMA history. He took it from something that was barely even legal in the US, that had John McCain actively trying to stamp it out, and turned it into a mainstream sport with its own section on the Yahoo Sports page and a massive deal with the biggest TV network in the country.

Cain vs JDS is going to be the first true step towards MMA (and by MMA I mean the UFC) replacing boxing in the public consciousness.

:hat

 

They were drafting in Royce Gracie and Tank Abbot for main events until the PRIDE buy out

 

atsch

 

Still got them to where they are today. Pride fell on its own accord, and they pretty much bought out the talent of what the UFC had to offer, sprinkled it with it's own fighters and ran slightly different rules and contests. They weren't the first of their kind, nor did they survive and they fell on their own sword. Corrupt as ****.

That's what I love about the whole Pride vs. UFC argument. Pride got busted for it's yakuza stranglehold and it built it's success on mostly taking established names with big bucks, yet in many people's eyes they're the godsend of Mixed Martial Arts and the UFC is a cheap meatheaded product.

But anyway, I didn't want to delve deep into a discussion about Pride vs. UFC or why the UFC survived, just that they're pretty much top dog today as far as combats sports go and had Zuffa not bought it out, it would be dead and buried along with Pride. Dana has done good things with the company, and while it's easy to put the medal on the spokesman, the Fertitta's seem much more the bankers and investors for the UFC, rather than the Vince McMahon of the company.

 

Im pretty sure the cheques were signed by a Mr Fertita when they bought up the competition in PRIDE, The WEC, and Strikeforce

Im pretty sure the Fertita's signed the cheque to purchase the brand from FEG with the URMMA's already in place. Go check out Lorenzo's ties to the NSAC and see who was the Daddy in getting the sanctioning in place

Maybe...but that's in spite of Dana not because of him

 

Doesn't take a genius to pull out his wallet. Takes a genius to make the decisions and to call it. Not saying Dana is at the forefront of everything, but I think he deserves his respect for all his faults and I would consider him to be a genius. The UFC took it off so they must've done something right.

 

There some good points there, and PRIDE's demise was mostly self inflicted. Still more luck than judgement though right

 

Fortune favours the bold, as they say. Not everything can be a calculated decision, a lot of the UFC's decisions have been a leap of faith, they're in the middle of one right now. That's why the business module reminds me of the WWE, but it's not all just a shot in the dark.

 

Of course, you need a bit of luck and timing in everything

And it is the WWE business model, and I assume that was intentional :thumbsup

 

Who was the genius? Michaelangelo, or the wealthy benefactors who bought him his paint and brushes and chisels, and provided him the slabs of marble to carve statues out of and the massive cathedrals to paint murals in?

Right, so these mega-rich, super-powerful Fertitas who are the ones who are truly responsible for growing the UFC keep Dana around as the frontman, making him ever more visible and powerful, while he is busy hurting the brand instead of helping it. Sure. :good

:hat

 

Even if some of you guys have no interest in MMA this type of competition is good for the consumers of both sports. HW title fight between two guys who are gonna bang, I think they are gonna get a lot of new fans if all goes well.

 

Ohhh no you didnt did you....:yikes

Damn, you did, you compared Michaelangelo to Dana :rofl:rofl:rofl

Go re-read your own posts about Dana and you'll see why he's been kept around

I cant take you seriously at all, shall I throw you a bone and tell you what tattoo's Ive got so you can write a few paragraphs about it next time I post

 

As does any organization.

1) It's not about the best interests of all the fighters. It isn't set up purely to benefit the individual competitors, nor should it be.

2) If you DO comply, you get to be a professional fighter, you have an insurance plan, you get to fight in front of packed houses to a televised audience of millions, you have the opportunity to earn SIGNIFICANT performance-based bonuses in PPVs, and you can get enough of a name to open employment opportunities after your career ends.

Yes, and if I have the choice between:

An organization where the fighters are paid millions but the contenders only fight tomato cans, where everyone is afraid to risk their 0, where the big fights usually don't get made and when they do they are timid affairs,

Or an organization where most fighters aren't millionaires, where top contenders fight each other all the time, where a loss doesn't really matter as long as it was an exciting, competitive loss, and where a PPV card is stacked with 5-6 competitive matchups,

Which one am I going to support? :good

:hat

 

Did you not realize that Dana invented BJJ and perfected American wrestling? :admin