UFC putting on pre- lims to steal from Boxing

Wow...this thread went to **** pretty quickly...

 

Man...do you make up a reality for EVERYONE you hate? Affliction shits? Please.... atsch

Your posts show you really don't know much about it. Don't take that personal, it's just what your posts on this subject show.

As for generic rock....sorry child. I stay away from MTV, radio, and that commercial bull****. Go rock to some 50 cent ***...

 

Exactly! I'll always love boxing more. IT;s what I grew up with. But with the loss of premium fights on free TV and the over usage of PPV's..politics and outrageous ourse demands muggin fans, it's not difficult to see boxing shoot itself in the foot while UFC prospers.

 

No, im pretty sure im right on the money about the closet *** thing. The way you follow eze around this forum, its clear you want his nuts. I dont swing that way btw pahtna.

As I said, I've watched alot of UFC. How did I guess that you were a fan though. Thats a good thing, given your woeful knowledge of boxing, its best you stick to UFC. No wonder you were a margarito fan.:rofl

 

d'oh

 

hahahaha... AGREED!

too bad with all these money grubbing ******* promoters it will never happen. i guess they don't realize that what they're doing is very bad for boxing in the long run... :verysad

 

Follow Eze? Wow...you will literally say ANYTHING to try and make an insult won't you? Just more of you INVENTING your own reality. Grow up little boy.

WHY would you watch UFC when you say it's just 2 guys rolling on the mat for 5 minutes? And you call me a closet homo?

I have NEVER said anything as remotely gay about Margarito as you do about Floyd. I give Margarito his props....you verbally suck Floyd every chanve you get o nthis board. that or you suck up to other Floyd fanboys.

Now answer this...WHY DO YOU WATCH something that you claim is just two guys rolling together on the mat for 5 minutes? Why? :deal

 

Very true, like Marquez' PPV buys fighting Chris John. How much was that?, $0 PPV buys. Yes I AM serious, look it up.

Both names are big enough and Marquez will sure as hell attract people but trying to say he will be the main draw is beyond idiotic. The highest PPV he made was $410k fighting none other than Pacquiao. How many PPVs has Marquez headlined?

 

And how would you pay these guys? These arent 9-5 UFC journeymen. THese are guys with 40 fights under their belts. They arent gonna fight for nickels.

As I said, the only way to get these cards is to pay fighters what UFC guys get. Its not gonna happen.

As the one poster says, the promotion makes you think the UFC card is better then it is.

 

So you say you dont follow eze around these forums like a love sick 15 year old girl? Thats news to everyone around here.

Its like watching the occasional bum fight on youtube. Slow day around the house, click on spike and watch 2 journeymen beat the crap out of eachother. Its like how you sometimes order a cheeseburger from mcdonalds, instead of going to red lobster.

Name one thing fanboyish that I've said about Floyd. Lets not bring up what you used to say about Margarito. Atleast when I say Floyds great, its true. :rofl

 

All you do these days is jump in threads related to Mayweather in any way to "set things straight" with the "Floydtoys". Your last attempt was to jump on the Margarito "most feared beast known to humanity" hype tricycle and that should have sent you and the likes of you the graveyard and kept you there.

Do you even discuss boxing at all or your obsession has taken over far too much that you don't care anymore?

You come here joking about "floydtoys" yet you have been showing more obsession than a million Leonard Ellerbe's since 2005 on ESB. I'm sure there must be a Mayweather Jr. forum or fansite out there, go there already.

And for the love of God, PLEASE don't infest ANY Pacquiao hype train. From Vivian Harris to Tony Concreto to Manny Pacquiao?, that's not just insulting to us Pacquiao fans and Pacquiao his self, it's insulting to the Philippines as a country.

 

atsch Thanks for the input mr. high and mighty. You've shown that for some reason, you prefer to invent your own meaning to my posts Scar. go ahead, make some lame ass reply about it, but it's true.

And who are you to talk? You almost ALWAYS bring up Margarito. Are you too stupid to realize that?

And you've now taken to making lies about me. What a piece of **** you are.

I've explained very clearly what I've said about Harris and anyone else, yet you choose, again, to make your own meaning to my posts and respond to it, Basically, you are posting and replying to yourself.

Ironic how you don't even address the topic..yet give me ****?

 

How many PPV buys does an average, run of the mill PPV get? Now how many would one that looked like that get? Would it sell out? Would there be sponsers lining up around the corner to be a part of it? Would certain fighters take discounts to be a part of it?

Its business 101.

I remember when the Patriots couldnt sell out a game. They couldnt get corporate sponsers. They couldnt buy a big named free agent. They wanted a new stadium and they almost got laughed out of MA. Well, Belechick comes along, drafts Brady and Seymour (among others) and turns the team around. Suddenly the seats start filling...sponsers start to line up...free agents start taking less money to play for them...and after the finally crack the Super Bowl win column, they get a new stadium. Now they are the model franchise in the league and it all started by gaining star power (boxing already has it), success (same), spending the money to make good things happen and doing things the right way. UFC, for all of their shortcomings, does their PPVs and most of their televised cards "the right way", boxing, as much as I love it, does not.

Get your head out of this "I HATE MMA" cloud and open your eyes.

(and BTW, that card was a retorical example of what a UFC like boxing card would look like...atsch)

 

UFC is promoted better than boxing imo. The marketing is there.

UFC does not have a lot of experts having oppinions (because the sport is so young) so they are able to control a large amount of the information in the media. Dana White can completely build a fighter in UFC and dis another (like Fedor) if he choses - and many would buy into it. In boxing there are many promoters and many organisations so it would be harder to hype any individual in the same single-minded manner.

UFC is a more complete fight-sport. Boxing deals with one aspect of fighting while UFC is closer to how we all fought as kids with some wrestling, some judo-moves etc. In this sense MMA is a really attractive product.

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On the side of boxing is that it has the history. It has legends and ancient stories. This attracts a lot of attention and interest.

Boxing has word-of-mouth over UFC because often people get into boxing because ones friends, family etc. are into it. UFC does not have that (yet) to the same extent.

Boxing is an amateur sport and therefore many more people have actually tried the sport, then have tried MMA. This also increases interest in boxing.

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All in all, it is easy to see why MMA has become popular. The product is potentially great. The main problem for MMA is the dependence of one organisation and one person. UFC can control everything that happens and can shape the sport to their benefit and to their script. Boxing promoters and media (HBO etc) would sometimes like to do this, but it is much harder to do in boxing. In UFC an entire manuscript of a beats B and then C beat D , then B should meet and so on could be scripted. For once they control the preparation of each fighter, the match making and so on. It is not 100% fool proof as we saw with Kimbo's loss, but it is much easier than it is in boxing. This may be used to create exciting stories and developments.... however manufactured and fake they may be. Boxing should (but may never do this because the sport is disintegrated and has not central body) attack the UFC publically in terms of marketing and point to the flaws and the fakeness of UFC. This may never happen and I believe that even if it happened MMA would keep going as I thing the main product is attractive to certain groups.