UFC putting on pre- lims to steal from Boxing

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by McAllister, Aug 20, 2009.


  1. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Back to personal attacks, I won't go that low with you, really. You can call me an ******* or a Margarito hater all you want. Yeah, I admit I bring up Margarito, I do have the right to do so don't you think?

    Isn't what I told you and the likes of you regarding Margarito and limitations which all of you laughed your asses off at turn out to be true?, Mosley basically did everything I said if a fighter does would **** up Margarito. Only reason I had doubts in Mosley pulling it off, though I picked him to win, is his age and if he will keep it up for full 12 rounds as he showed dangerous signs of fading against Cotto and Mayorga. If anything, be man enough to admit you were an idiot buying into the most feared nonsense and Mayweather running scared from someone who's biggest win was Manuel ****in' Gomez back then.

    Look, if you try to bring up the number of times I bring up Margarito with your obsession to Mayweather it doesn't even come close. You are literally spotted in ANY semi-negative Mayweather thread or a positive one turning negative. It's not hard to click a thread regarding Mayweather only to see you there. Would you say I'm found in EVERY Margarito-related thread?, HELL NO.

    I'm not shitting on you for your mistakes, I'm not low to do that. I'm reminding you of stupid comments you made in the past and continue to do so. The blind bandwagon jumping is more obvious than ever and I'm not shitting on you for that either, hey that's what makes the forum entertaining and a great time killer.
     
  2. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    In the US UFC has more fans, it's basically packed with former WWE fans now that they get a "real" type of WWE action. To be honest, I noticed that the majority of kids talk a lot about UFC, it's like the old days when Stone Cold was the hottest discussion in school gatherings but now it's UFC "superstars". It will eventually die off as time goes but right now the demand is more for UFC in the US than boxing. World-wide boxing definitely wins but in the US it's UFC for now.
     
  3. kirk

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    I hate to say it but UFC is going to do plenty more numbers then May-JMM...

    Now Cotto vs Pac on the other hand... that has a chance to do decent numbers if marketed right.
     
  4. kirk

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    At my job at Hastings - everyone talked about UFC, not boxing
    At my winco job i worked with mainly older guys and some talked boxing, not too much UFC
    At my boot camp - ALL ufc, maybe one or two guys out of 60 knew boxing
    MCT - The cafaterias actually show UFC on their tv's, thats all anyone cares about
    MOS school - there were a handful of people that i was pleasantly suprised that knew who oscar was, mayweather, pac and cotto... some mosley. most were UFC fans

    In my city, boxing gyms are basically non existant while mma gyms are all over the place and flooded.


    honestly... i dont know if its just my region, or if other people are out of touch with whats going on, but UFC in AMERICA is way ahead of boxing in terms of overall awareness, and also its much more mainstream now. At the bookstores in my city, MMA magazines outnumber boxing mags by about 4-1... my cousin who came from san diego knew all kinds of UFC fighters (due to the new UFC game) and didnt want to hear about boxing from me, but about ufc...

    I hate UFC :-:)-:)-:)-( but boxing needs to up its game, and im happy the direction boxing has been going as i think it has (think of all the good matchups weve had from 130-147) and thank god for HBO and SHOWTIME or wed be in a world of hurt.... i hope boxing can get its act together before its swallowed even more.
     
  5. Rattler

    Rattler Middle Aged Man Full Member

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    No... they're gonna pay 50 bucks to see Tyson fight McBride. Or Tyson vs McNeely. You would never see that in the UFC.
     
  6. Rattler

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    You also don't see the lWinky Wright types being ignored by the top contenders for years simply because they're a high risk fight. Brock Lesnar came into the UFC with a lot of mainstream attention. Who does the UFC give him in his first fight? The former UFC Heavyweight Champion of the World. He had to put up or shut up... not spend five years chewing up and spitting out nobodies to build up a pretty but fairly empty record. That's what people like about the UFC. The fights they want are the fights they get.
     
  7. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    It's disgusting, I know but that's how it is. I think UFC is just a new generation WWE which will fade away as time goes, it's kind of in it's "prime" right now with all the attention and no skill canvas hugfests or low blow KOs, children enjoy that. Boxing always reigns supreme, it's a legendary sport and it won't drop because of human chicken fighting. Boxing is a sport, UFC/MMA is a circus. These guys mention boxing, boxing doesn't bother to mention them. I have tons of respect for WWE FAR more than UFC garbage and the garbage men controlling it who feel they have to downgrade other sports to promote theirs. If anything, WWE has been promoting boxers/boxing than shitting on them. Didn't they recently let a superstar they have job against Mayweather?, Tyson KO HBK, Ali knocking out the ref..etc, WWE guys are cool, they have always been and never showed disrespect to other sports to promote themselves like the garbage men UFC has.

    In the US UFC is doing better, that means nothing. World-wide, Boxing will always **** on garbage like that. It's enough that undercard boxers make more than main eventers in that human chicken fighting nonsense. You try to compare Boxing in England with UFC and people will laugh at you, a circus will never compare with boxing. That's a circus and it's on fire now but will eventually fade and you will see.

    These garbage men steal from boxing, boxing doesn't steal from them nothing and doesn't need to. They copy boxing in every thing then come out and **** on boxing, bunch of garbage men as I said. It's human chicken fighting, that's all there is to know. The way I see it is if a sport isn't in the olympics it isn't a sport, end of story. Don't expect human chicken fighting to be introduced, Women boxing was introduced and human chicken fighting didn't and never will. Low blow KOs, headbutt KOs, elbow KOs, ball grabbing submissions. That's a Jackie Chan or Van Dam movie brought to life man, of course it will get attention for a while then **** off.
     
  8. codeman99998

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    i think your mistaken.

    We are all guessing, and mine is, that in the us, it will raise its profile a bit more, while mma in europe is in the beginning of its journey.

    more german og british based shows, will se it gain popularity. With that more british and german fighters will gain exposure and then the snowball is rolling.

    YOU might thinks its **** compared to boxing, and your entitled to your opinion, but demographics show, that mma has the younger generations by its balls, and thats a trend boxing, will have a dificult time to turn around.

    When the 18-24 year olds are settling down 10 years down the road, which fighters will they tell their children about, the mma guys they watched or the boxers they do not know.

    eventhough i box a bit myself and dont do mma, i still prefer mma in general, as its more action packed. ITS ONLY WHEN BOXING OFFERS ITS CREME DE LA CREME, that im on the edge of my seat, but sadly that doesnt happen very often.
     
  10. Rattler

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    How very mong of you.
     
  11. AJAX

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    People have been saying the UFC or mma is a fad and will go away for years now, but it's not it's growing and is one of the fastest growing sports, so even though scarill convince himself it will all go away soon it's not. I come on esb because it's the only place I can find boxing news because nobody in my area follows boxing anymore, all the bars carry UFC events, the last boxing event to make it to a bar was ODL and Floyd and I don't see another one anytime soon.

    The one thing good about the UFC having a monopoly is they choose who fights who, the guys arn't selfpromoted and choose the path of least resistance. Guys get thrown to the wolves and don't get to fight 20 cans while in the UFC.

    The cards are usually very goog and have many good fights on them besides the main event.
     
  12. nfc90210

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    Do you consider (American) football a sport? It isn’t in the Olympics. So by your definition, which is the end of the story, it isn’t a sport. I’ve personally always thought it was a sport. I see now I was wrong. Do you want to tell America or shall I?
     
  13. AJAX

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    That is not the truth whatsoever, and if you really believe that your in denial, without ODL I don't see any boxing events in the near future coming close to a million ppv buys. UFC 100 did 1.7 million and Brock vs Fedor would do at least that.
     
  14. Rico Spadafora

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    who cares? Those undercard fights are AWFUL matter of fact that whole card is ****.
     
  15. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    ummm, that 1.7 mil has been disputed by just about every legit source out there other than Dana White himself. Rumors are it was closer to 1.3 mil. White is as bad as Arum when it comes to PPV numbers.