UFC signs NCAA champ Phil Davis

Good. some new interesting matchups in the lhw division

 

Meh! Another predictable wrestler who Rogan will call World class, when in truth the wrestler in question will be far from elite level/World class. YAWN...SNORE....

 

Well hes definitely world class in his style, whether he would be in an international style is another thing.

 

No disrespect but NCAA's is light years away from top International competition. In addition American wrestlers are not having much success at the International level. Two bronze medals at the most recent World Championships. Taking home a team ranking of like #15!

Nothing personal against Phil Davis but he is not, nor will he have ever been a Worldclass wrestler but Zuffa will tell everyone otherwise.

 

Is that you Wentz...

 

Wentz is liberal trash. But he is not altogether incorrect regarding his feelings toward ZUFFA!

 

American wrestlers struggle at the international level because while the rest of the world is doing freestyle and greco-roman, our high schools and colleges wrestle folkstyle. Our best folk style NCAA wrestlers don't even go to the Olympics much of the time and if they do they're at a stylistic disadvantage.

 

You have to be quite extraordinary wrestling folkstyle basically your whole life and then do freestyle and win a gold/world championship @ freestyle.....Cael Sanderson, Henry Cejudo Olympic Golds....... two recent bad asses.....Stephen Neal was another in '99 (world championship).... yep it's been slim pickins....with that being said....flip the script and make the Olympics Folkstyle and the US gets A LOT more hardware.....

 

Oh Godatsch Here comes the America Uber alis(sp) crowd. Yeah sure; There is always some reason why Americans are not the best.:-(

Hey, I got it! The reason Americans do not dominate International wrestling is because all the best wrestlers are in the NFL and NBA

Spin doctoring tools!

 

He did win a Junior national championship in Greco. He probably would have "world class" wrestling in the "world" of MMA.

The folkstyle rules really do put US wrestlers a step behind for international rules competitions. It would be like training in Sambo and then entering the olympics in Judo.

Ironically, one or two of the best Olympic quality wrestlers with experience in several top level international competitions do play in the NFL, one signed for the Jets as an offensive lineman a few years ago.

The whole "oh our best boxers and wrestlers are playing football and basketball instead of fighting is a bunch of **** though.

 

Its not an excuse, its what really happens. Either you underestimate the differences between folkstyle and the olympic styles or you are just plain ******ed. I'm leaning towards the latter.

Some of Americas best wrestlers are in the NFL in fact. Stephen Neal of the Patriots is a 2x NCAA champion and a World champion at heavyweight. He also beat Brock Lesnar in the 1999 NCAA finals.

 

Your post is even more stupid than your screen-name G!

Pimpdasystem would have made you seem even more gangsta and intimidating. atsch

I know all about Stephen Neal and that he beat Brock Lesnar. I think it was 3-2 in a fairly dominant fashion despite the close score. Neal was not able to get past Kerry McCoy to represent the U.S. National squad in furthur International competitions. And McCoy the U.S. best heavyweight was never able to defeat anyone from Russia, Uzbekistan or Kazakhstan in International competition.

In fact; The only time he earned a medal was a silver in the 2003 World Championships held in NYC. McCoy was given a gift draw right into the finals before failing once again against the great Artur Taymazov. The same World Championships where Sajid Sajidov easily defeated Cael Sanderson.

Perhaps McCoy should have stuck with football. Stephen Neal chose NFL when Wrestling passed him by.

 

Before you looked all this up on wikipedia you should have at least looked up the differences between folk style and the olympic styles first. If they introduced folkstyle into the olympics, you dont think we'd have a **** load of more medalists next time around? Any attempt to analyize America's performance in international wrestling without taking into account the different styles of wrestling fails miserabily. Just like you.

WTF is your point anyway, telling me all these things I already know. You can't completely tell how good a wrestler is from looking at match scores, just like you can't really tell how good a fighter is from looking at boxrec. You collected all these facts but your too stupid to see the big picture.

What does International wrestling credentials have to do with MMA anyway? The best wrestler in UFC is GSP and we know about his nonexistent wrestling credentials.

And then you have the audacity to talk **** about my sn when yours is Nosbor? Nosbor? What are you a keibler elf??? Get back to making cookies cause MMA aint your thing.

 

Good Lord you are obtuse! International wrestling credentials have everything to do with MMA, particularly when frauds such as Koscheck, Lesnar, Hughes, Trigg, Henderson et al; Are being represented as "World Class", when in fact they are not even the best wrestlers in a country that ranks from 11-15 as a team on the World stage over the past decade.

You are of course correct that wrestling in MMA has different applications and assesment standards,. However, I am not disputing that. I just do not want to have my intelligence insulted (primarily by Rogan/ZUFFA) when wrestlers that enter MMA are passed of as far more than what they are/were.

Linland is probably the exception with his Olympic silver. However he did not even earn his spot on the squad. In fact he sued the U.S. Wrestling governing body pver some technicality to gain his spot. Then he was defeated handily by Murad Khardanov of Russia in the Gold medal match.

Expect to hear the same about Daniel Cormier. He does have International experience, unfortuantely he has never won anything of consequence but they will attempt to pass him of as some sort of Wrestling God.

I know, none of this matters because the World at large should adopt U.S. folkstyle as the true World standard. atsch

Jingoistic rubbish at it's finest!!!