**UK & Ireland All Time Light-Heavyweight Survey (poll closes 14th September**

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  1. Smith

    Smith Monzon-like Full Member

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    Following on from this thread; http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/...=165559&page=9 , the heavyweight all time rankings have been finalised and posted.


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    (Note, we are doing the 8 original weight classes first then when that is through we will revisit the cruisers/super middles etc)



    ONLY A TOP TEN AND NO TIED PLACINGS.

    Scoring system is as follows: (borrowed from Rumsfield:good)

    25 points for your #1.
    15 for #2.
    12 for #3.
    10 for #4.
    8 for #5.
    5 for #6.
    4 for #7.
    3 for #8.
    2 for #9.
    1 for #10.



    Shoot away, lets get some heated discussion and some interesting debate on who's going to be in here.


    Theres one rule, from GazOC, as follows.

    Amended:

    1) To qualify for ranking a fighter must have been born in the UK or Eire or have fought for a British/ Irish title.

    Lets go.





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    Smith, Sep 8, 2009
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  2. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    This is going to be a good 'un!!
     
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  3. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    At least we have some depth in this division :D
     
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  4. Smith

    Smith Monzon-like Full Member

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    :happy:good

    I've got a few things to read up on on certain guys but hopefully get my list up earlier this time, tomorow.
     
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  5. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    im rubbish with my LHWs

    but Freddie Mills, Len Harvey, John Conteh are all in the running
     
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  6. Smith

    Smith Monzon-like Full Member

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    This is what the threads for :good

    After a few pages and revision we can all come up with some solid lists.
     
    Smith, Sep 8, 2009
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  7. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    You better hit the books then mate!;)
     
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  8. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    This is my preliminary thoughts, it always helps to see a list and some of the names involved and people can expand on what they disagree on...

    1. Bob Fitzsimmons
    2. Mike McTigue
    3. John Conteh
    4. Freddie Mills
    5. Len Harvey
    6. Jock McAvoy
    7. Joe Calzaghe
    8. Clinton Woods
    9. Dennis Andries
    10. Chris Finnegan
     
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  9. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Fitz won't be that high on my list, his career at 175 was too short. I don't think the division was even officially recognized untl Fitz was in his late 30's.
     
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  10. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    The problem is he has a lot of fights where he'd be above middleweight, I don't know where to rank those victories. I suppose I awarded him quite a few for heavyweight so I can't do the same here, its probably best to keep them as heavyweight and middleweight.
     
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  11. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    1. Mike McTigue
    2. John Conteh
    3. Freddie Mills
    4. Len Harvey
    5. Bob Fitzsimmons
    6. Jock McAvoy
    7. Joe Calzaghe
    8. Clinton Woods
    9. Dennis Andries
    10. Chris Finnegan

    Okay, I'm happier with this list. I think thats the cut off point for me where I realise Fitz didn't do his best work at light heavy, but purely on ability and all things considered I can't rank him any lower. Just doesn't seem right.

    I'm not sure who was better between Chris Finnegan or Dennis Andries, I'm going to have to try and dig out some footage because there isn't much to seperate them any other way.
     
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  12. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Finnegan>>>>>>>Andries
     
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  13. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    I havn't made a proper decision yet but when these rankings came up my first reaction was that I'd have Fitz very high at HW, the lower end (say 7th/ 8th) of the top 10 at 175 and around 5th at middleweight.

    IMHO most of Fitzs fights over 160 (although the limit was flexible on ocassion) prior to 1902/3 have to ranked as either over the weight middleweight fights or full heavyweight fights because 175 didn't really exist as a division before that.
     
    GazOC, Sep 8, 2009
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  14. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    The Jeff Harding fight is on YouTube in high quality. Sadly he's officially 35 years old but by his own admission may be closer to 40. :lol: Not the best way to judge him...

    I've seen the Bob Foster/Finnegan fight and he was a lot more polished than this guy, performed quite creditably I thought.
     
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  15. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    1. Mike McTigue
    2. John Conteh
    3. Freddie Mills
    4. Len Harvey
    5. Bob Fitzsimmons
    6. Jock McAvoy
    7. Joe Calzaghe
    8. Clinton Woods
    9. Chris Finnegan
    10. Dennis Andries

    Finnegan actually looks better than Clinton I think, but Clinton's achievements outweigh his.
     
    TFFP, Sep 8, 2009
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