UK PPV numbers....

It's clearly a minority sport. Look at BBC sport's home page,https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport
boxing doesn't rate a mention.

 

I don't like ppv. The only Femi fight worth the money was Wlad, the rest have been pretty awful. Povetkin might be worth it as he has long pedigree but the others bar Wlad were not. Haye only served up one good ppv vs Chisora, rest poor. It's a joke that Bellew is now a ppv fighter tbh. Usyk will walk through him.

 

PPV is for mugs full stop, even if it is a great fight why not just go to your local pub and get it for free whilst enjoying a good atmosphere

 

Most of these figures are highly questionable, and in some cases are completely misleading.

 

These figures all come from various sources so they are not plucked out of thin air. There is no other resource giving us PPV figures unless you have any bright ideas Sherlock.

 

Haye did not serve up any good performances on PPV - his Southern Area Budgie Cage fight against Chisora was in the glory days of Boxnation.

Eh Day has served up some real dross on PPV including a number of A. Joshua v A. Pudding fights, Crippled Haye v Bellew Twice and no doubt we get the Shell Brook v Faded Khan fight soon.

Yet the cohort of PPV mugs keep coming back for an Eh Day Rogering.

 

So you do pay for PPV and thus consider yourself a mug!

PPV are needed and much better than the known alternative, Closed Circuit. I was old enough to remember them and they were grim.

200 people in a Town Hall, with one loo and a 18/20 inch TV flicking between colour and black and white and sometimes no audio...

 

i couldn't think of many worse ways to watch boxing than that tbh. it's all about what you prefer

 

Think the world has moved on with advances in technology including TV and Internet yet in the UK, Boxthing is back to pre TV days with more people listening to Boxthing on the radio than buying PPVs.

Any existing Sky Sports Subscriber buying a PPV is being mugged off and simply MUGS

 

PPV mugs

Ey day earns

Cripple toe vs dull boy pakora

Tony Dosh vs Dullian Shyte

Bellend vs cripple toe 1 and 2

What a farce ppv mugs

These fights should have been on Sky sports 4 and held at York hall

Box Office should be exclusive for real fighters like Usyk, Lomachenko and Crawford alone

 

The previous thread covered a lot of the issues with these figures:

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threa...-beyond-1966-2018.613347/page-4#post-19365458

The most glaring problem with the BARB figures is that the guy who got hold of them from their website didn't even bother to check whether there were any other PPV events that week.

There is no resource giving PPV figures because there is no requirement to publish them. We're at the mercy of the powers that be who have that information, but obviously they have a vested interest and will be neither complete nor 100% reliable. We can use the BARB figures as a guide, but if the people circulating these figures don't make the limitations of the data clear, they are just spreading fake news.

The list suggests that Haye-Bellew II (775,000) did over twice the buys of Froch-Groves II (355,000). However, the Daily Mail reported Froch-Groves II at 900,000 (without saying where they got this from), and the 775,000 for Haye-Bellew II includes how ever many people bought Backlash the day after. Any BARB figures are just estimates anyway based on probably a few hundred homes with BARB meters, so there'll always be an element of pissing in the wind.

Sometimes we have to accept that we can't get hold of all the info we would like.

 

Because you'll spend more money than the PPV and a few cans would have cost and have to be near casual 'fans' who think Joshua is an ATG Heavyweight. That's why!

I'm definitely against the proliferation of PPV shows but they don't really cost that much to buy - still cheaper than going to see shows 'in the flesh' - and if they help generate the purses required to generate the biggest fights and on British soil they can't be a bad thing.

Joshua vs Parker was a justifiable PPV but Joshua vs Povetkin isn't. The problem isn't PPV's per se but promoters resorting to them too often.

 

The problem is EXISTING Sky Sports Subscribers should not be asked to fork out £20 PPV when they have already forked out significant monthly fees for Multi Sports including boxing.

Imagine if the Premiership Title decider, the Golf Majors or the Ashes etc were £20 PPV - Sky would be finished very quickly as subscribers would see no point in paying to watch dross.

If the greedy fighters will not fight for the significant sums offered - feck them as 95% of the PPV fights have been shyte anyway.

 

One of the best fights I viewed on TV was earlier this year when Ronnie Clark upset Zelfa Barrett at the York Hall and he was probably paid the same as Tony Bellew's food and drinks bill during the fight weekend v Cripple Toe.

These greedy fookers paid millions does nothing for grass roots boxing and the unsuspecting PPV mugs have no idea that they are being conned.

 

You have a certain amount of the money commodity that you spend on boxing, and are not happy to spend anymore, fine. Others are willing to pay more, that is fine too.

Boxing, perhaps more than other sport, really is only about making a profit for the capitalist. Us fans know that, and still sign up for it, we can moan, but ultimately need to accept that unless there is a profit to be made, the big fights will not be made.

So to call those fans who help make the big fights, mugs, seems the wrong thing to do, if you are a fan of the sport. Or am I doing you a disservice and you just prefer boxing at a local/club level? Which is what happens without the capital investment.