UKAD, fit for purpose?

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  1. obelector

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    if what peter fury is saying is true then this organization is simply not fit for any purpose. corrupt to its core and should be shut down with legal action taken against the management who have basically clouded the whole PED issue and bent it to an agenda. this version of events probably constitutes blackmail. again, that is if it is true.
     
  2. Sturm

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    If there's money involved which undoubtedly there is then there will always be corruption. Its a fact of life, across every sport, in every spectrum of our lives. Money bends and brakes rules every day.
     
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  3. ryanm8655

    ryanm8655 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not watched the video but no doubt it’s repeating the same old BS...

    Can anyone summarise?

    At the end of the day both fury’s failed and/or missed drugs tests...Tyson admitted to taking cocaine...yet they’re the hard done by party...
     
  4. On_The_Ropes

    On_The_Ropes Active Member Full Member

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    I feel exactly the same, I'm so tiered of the Fury's playing the victim card, it's the world against us bollocks. They need to stop blaming everyone else & take responsibility for there own actions. They got off lightly with a two year ban especailly as Fury had ruled himself out from fighting again way before UKAD were even involved, yet it's all UKAD's fault that Fury has been inactive for the last two years.
     
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  5. duke83

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    1 hour 14 minutes? Can someone summarise if they have watched it please
     
  6. Heisenberg

    Heisenberg @paulmillsfitness Full Member

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    Yeah the Fury’s are victims. Tyson retired off his own back for two years and Hughie’s punishment was a world title shot in his home town? You gotta sympathise....
     
  7. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Regardless of whether you believe that the Furys are victims or not the way the establishment have gone about them, especially Tyson is disgusting.

    I have never seen or can recall an instance in which a British fighter/person goes out and dethrones a dominant ATG fighter and is immediately vilified and his achievement downplayed.

    The media was disgusting, especially Oliver Holt and Tyson a man who you may not like or agree with was hounded for his beliefs and everyday actions.

    Throw into the fact you have Joshua who was seemingly given God like status for going life and death with Wlad, a much older and inactive Wlad and you can see Fury's point in what he's been saying.

    Again you may not like Tyson but at least he isn't fake like Joshua, the fact that there was a blanket on his racist comments says everything you need to know about the media, establishment and the PC world we live in.
     
  8. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Although I have to agree somewhat that UKAD has looked pretty bad in this case, I think both Fury's got of very easily. Which makes them look even worse.
    Even Hammer somehow keeps his loss now, while he was caught at that bout. Doesn't matter how it got into his body, he got a 2 year ban for it and now somehow Hammer keeps the loss?!
    Hughie was caught on nandrolone and didn't really get any punishment at all eventually.
    Hughie Fury was caught on nandrolone, on coke and refused a drugtest. Still he got a non consequential retroactive ban that didn't matter anyway because he was having "mental issues", what made him "retire" and cost him his license in the first place.

    What are they mad about?! It's like they got a slap on the wrist and that's it! While other guys got huge bans on coke or refusing a test alone.
     
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  9. Unforgiven

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    Whether you love or hate the Furys (or indifferent) and whether you think they "got off lightly" or the opposite (or something in-between), the fact that UKAD didn't charge them until June 2016,for the offence of February 2015, should be the most concerning aspect of this whole thing - to anyone who truly cares.

    UKAD have totally failed to explain what that's all about.
    The recent statement mentioned "due to delays in results management". Whatever that means.



     
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  10. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    UKAD handled this terribly.

    They delay in charging them was an absolute Joke and then not to have hearing for 2 years! Regardless of the outcome they have shown they are atleast incompetent.
     
  11. ryanm8655

    ryanm8655 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But the hearing didn’t happen because of the Fury’s...
     
  12. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    True, these guys are total wakers like you Brits like to call it.
    But don't forget that it very much worked in Fury's advantage too.
    If they had charged him inside a normal amount of time, he would never even have been in the Wlad fight for being suspended. Never catching Wlad on the right time, and someone else had probably gotten the praise of beating Wlad.
    He had just been that big goof, but then the big goof that was caught on peds.
    His self destruction might have followed the exact same path, but without him ever having been the lineal champion.
     
  13. Unforgiven

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    That's all true but I suspect the implications of the details of this case go well beyond the life and crimes of Mr. Tyson Fury and UKAD.

    My suspicion is that this kind of thing happens all the time in every jurisdiction.

    My suspicion is that this thing has only blown into the public sphere because Tyson Fury spent his first six months as world champion causing offense and embarrassment to all the wrong people.
    I believe UKAD had been quite happy to sweep the dodgy test result under the carpet and have a quiet word in the Furys ears while Tyson Fury was a promising young foil to King Klitschko - after all, it was only one little instance of anabolic steroid nandrolone. And Fury was a up and coming potential star.
    But when Fury went on to become the controversial public figure he became, and when the UK found itself with another "world champion" who was both popular and media trained , suddenly those old dodgy test results came out of the cabinet.
    At that point Tyson Fury lost the usual protections afforded to sporting stars and he was to be treated as an Ordinary Joe.

    That's the only theory here that makes much sense.

    I believe the Furys told the truth when they said UKAD at first gave them a heads up about "elevated levels" and advised them to perhaps "change their diets".
    Let me be clear: I'm not saying I believe the Furys didn't knowingly take nandrolone or illegal nandrolone-producing supplements.
    But I believe the most part of the rest of their account.


    So, this all should make us wonder how many other athletes and sportspeople are being advised by "anti doping" agents about irregularities or "elevated levels" or told to "adjust" their diets or supplementation.
     
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  14. Robney

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    If this is only partly true then UKAD isn't really much better as RUSADA, and there probably should be an investigation.
    Just hope they're just very incompetent instead.
     
  15. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Regardless of your feelings re. Team Fury - and as @Unforgiven can attest I'm no Fury apologist - it can't be denied that UKAD have ****ed this right up and as an org needs a complete overhaul to ensure such a farce doesn't happen again.
     
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