Unavenged losses that hurt careers

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  1. Jay1990

    Jay1990 Active Member Full Member

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    Example:
    Nunn after toney ko
    Broner after Maidana loss
    Tyson after Douglas ko
     
  2. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Nunn should have avenged the Toney fight after Toney improved simply because James became so good his career upstaged anything Nunn did after, Toney didn`t feel he was that good vs Nunn actually. Maidana was simply a better fighter than Broner and Tyson didn`t need to beat Douglas he just had to beat Holyfield who beat Douglas and all would have been forgiven. Hearns was hurt way more than these guys by not getting to avenge his defeat to Leonard at welter, by the time of the rematch they were both a lot slower and it didn`t mean as much. Terry Norris losing to Julian Jackson. Hearns losing to Hagler. Duran losing to Laing in terms of how British pundits viewed the fight. Curry v Honeyghan.
     
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  3. JC40

    JC40 Boxing fan since 1972 banned Full Member

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    Wladimir K vs Puritty and Sanders comes straight to mind. Wlad is the only so called great heavyweight who never tried to avenge all of his defeats as far as I know.
     
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  4. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Bowe w Lewis

    Hagler vs Leonard
     
  5. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As great as he was and being born and raised in a gym, Jofre in 2 very close fights a year apart just couldn't get it done against Harada. Retired after the second loss ... Redeemed himself in his comeback at FW but still you wonder what if he beats Harada the second go ???
     
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  6. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wlad would have definitely beaten Puritty in a rematch, however I don't think he would want or would have beaten Sanders. Sanders absolutely destroyed him ala Foreman vs Frazier or Norton.
     
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  7. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    I agree...I've always thought that Sanders did indeed utterly destroy Wlad...without mercy or hesitation.
     
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  8. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Unless you are a huge underdog and you perform above all expectations but still lose to the favorite, doesn't every unavenged loss hurt a career?
     
  9. J Jones

    J Jones Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pinklon Thomas not going back to beat Trevor Berbick
    Wlad not avenging the loss to Sanders
    Vitali not avenging the loss to Byrd
    Ray Mercer not going after Holmes
    Moorer not avenging the loss to Foreman
    Barrera losing twice to Junior Jones
    JMM losing to Freddie Norwood
    Toney losing twice to Griffin and once to Thadzi
    Spinks retiring for good after the no-show against Tyson
    Pavlik falling apart after the boxing lesson Hopkins gave him
    Forrest twice losing to Mayorga
    Tszyu losing to Hatton
    Breland L & D against Starling
    Curry loss to Honeyghan
    Nelson and Gomez for the losses to Sal Sanchez (he would’ve beaten them again)
    Pryor loss to Billy Joe Young
    Hearns’s 2 losses to Barkley
    Calderon losses to Segura
    Mares loss to Jhonny Gonzalez
     
  10. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Palomino fighting Benitez in LA or Mexico. (the original fight was in San Juan).
    Zarate & Pintor vs Gomez in Mexico.
     
  11. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    SRR never tried to avenge the Ralph "Tiger" Jones defeat.
    Likewise, prime Emile Griffith must have felt one fight with Rubin Carter was enough!
     
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  12. BCS8

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    Lomachenko vs Salido.

    Despite it being his second fight, haters will bang the Salido drum until the bottom falls out.
     
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  13. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Liston's first defeat was a split decision loss to Marty Marshall on Sept 7th 1954.
    Liston stopped Marshall in 6 rds flooring him4 times ,onApril 21st 1955.
    Liston again defeated Marshall by decision shut out on March 6th 1956.

    Dempsey lost to Jim Flynn by 1 round ko and returned the compliment a year later.
    Dempsey lost to Jack Downey on April 5th1915,drew with him on Dec13th the same year and beat him on Feb 21st 1916.
    Not very far your knowledge goes is it?
     
  14. J Jones

    J Jones Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You provided a lot of good examples. I forgot about JMM vs John and Tszyu vs Phillips.

    That said, I disagree with a few of your choices, particularly Johnson vs Willard and Louis vs Charles. In Johnson’s case, I think he was emotionally drained from the “journey” of getting to the title and defending it in the face of extreme hate. I know the Floyd Lovers will say their man faces hate too, but the hate towards Johnson was real and could’ve turned to murder (lynching) at any moment.

    As for Louis, he was at a point in his career where he would’ve never beaten Charles. I don’t think we can hold it against him for losing at the end of his career, to another ATG.
     
  15. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nunn never fought at 160 lbs again.
    Curry never fought at 147 lbs again

    Jackson moved up to 160 lbs. shortly after beating Norris.

    Norris would have been crazy to seek a rematch, anyway.