Unbelievable odds for Povetkin vs Whyte 2

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by bluebird, Mar 14, 2021.


  1. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Povetkin suffer Covid like 3 time in a row and lost a serious amount of muscle mass, strength, power, cardio, speed, and whatever you can say, and he even aged more, and just add Covid on top of that, he will be in s**** shape.
    I think its really a bad decision that his team decide to let this fight go. He should have retired, and come back after he is 100%(for his age obviously) and 100% fit from the Covid damage he took.
    And then have a few farewell fights and thats it.
    Victory for Whyte for me will mean nothing. This is ain`t taking a rematch - sorry.
     
  2. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    If it makes money it makes sense.......

    Also why bring weight into it when Pov has campaigned at that weight his whole career lol
     
  3. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    I like the odds I got $200 on Povetkin by KO
     
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  4. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Funny that no one made out Campbell out to be totally spent for the fight vs Garcia after testing positive or Glowacki against Okolie this weekend or Vlasov vs Smith JR etc.

    Just seems the usual agenda fulled anti Whyte people on this forum are getting their excuses in early to not give Whyte credit if he wins.
     
  5. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why here Campbell is mentioned?

    Okolie will fight in Eddie backyard and Glowacki is away corner guy here. To win Okolie, he needs to stop him in distance and pray God not to get DQed. Most likely Okolie will won this one.
    A bit laughable, you looks that are 33 y.o blind fan.
    Most likely you never had compared Povetkin's fights when he was 30, 32, 35, 36 and 37 y.o
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    Whyte will not beat nor Fury nor A.J. :D:D

    You, like a lot of fans are a bit laughable.
    credit Whyte might had get if he as so highly ranked ( above Povetkin before their fight No1 ) had picked fight vs Wilder or Ruiz Jr and defeated them.
    Looks they are not enough old and enough small. ;)
     
  6. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    when you will get in the ring boxer 25-28 lbs heavier than you, you might inform forums how cool and easy fight you had with such stuff.

    Yeah, second your point is correct : Pov usually was 224-225 lbs, in some cases 228 lbs.
     
  7. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    Povetkin was once phenomenal, but I think he's pretty shot now. The way I saw their first fight, Whyte was winning easily and Povetkin just got a lucky shot in. Now the Povetkin of a few years ago would have no trouble with Whyte, but not this old Povetkin.

    As for the covid thing, testosterone and simply being a man tend to worsen the effects of a lot of highly inflammatory infections. Men die much more from covid and other respiratory infections like tuberculosis, although the media ignores that for some reason -- I assume because "men bad, women good." So top athletes and body builders are actually probably much more at risk for bad cases of covid than your average desk worker, meaning it wouldn't be that surprising if Povetkin did have some lingering effects -- as I unfortunately do.
     
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  8. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He isn't shot but long years over the hill he really is.
    Prime Pov was unhappy cos he was in prime in Klitshckos era.
    We do not see full NBA or NHL with 37 and 37 + y.o athletes and these are paid very well so there is reason why.
    marathon runners and sprinters 37+ too looks that are not in current world elite top. Again there is reason for this. No one beats them, still it is what it is.

    now this covid, it s not predictable. There had been told that older ppl suffer more and still, some 60+ y.o had suffered from this just a bit, some positive didn't had felt anything.
    There are also reports about cases when younger than 30 y.o ppl had been in hospitals while had happened that some 70 y.o with this covid just stayed at home in self isolation and they were in not bad shape.
    Like lottery.
     
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  9. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Naw, Pov does know what he is doing. During his career he had landed too much " lucky shots " to think that it was coincidence.
    Povetkin had stopped ppl also in ammmy boxe and KB fights.
    He does know what he is doing and is very experienced.
    Ofc this does bring also negative things : he does have long, really long mileage under belt.
     
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  10. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    I suspect we're not really thinking of lucky shots in the same way. Certainly fighters can increase of the odds getting these hits and I have no doubt Povetkin trained extensively on how to execute such a punch. The way I think of a lucky punch is that it's so unreliable that it's not really major factor for predicting a match. Great jabs, great movement, big punching power, accuracy, etc, are all things that can be relied upon for future matches and will result in consistent wins. But that one punch KO from out of nowhere? It's not realistically going to happen again for Povetkin.
     
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  11. Surrix

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    Yeah, actually Povetkin had trained a lot since his amateur KB days, KB then was more popular in europe than it is now. Concurrence level even for Russian nationals was high.
    Later he moved more to amateur boxing, there too a lot of training camps. To get in Russia's national amateur boxing team is not easy.
    Then euro championships, World championships and Olympic games.
    There a lot of pros and cons: very serious experience is plus, long mileage cos training and tournaments is minus.

    Pov in amateurs too wasn't exactly point fighter, nor in KB nor in amateur boxing.

    I think Pov should had been retired when he was 37 y.o. :(
    Pov might use also combos, he likes to do this too.
     
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  12. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    Where is the evidence for this?
     
  13. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I dunno care about " evidences " for eddie and Al fighter's fans.
    No one might have any need to prove any bare thing to eddie guy's fans.
     
  14. Philly161

    Philly161 "Fundamentals are the crutch of the talentless" banned Full Member

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    I agree the odds are insane yes he had covid but hes the better boxer and he knocked the guy out the first time. I know I'm taking some action.

    I think in addition to what people have said that British fighters have a large fan base so that shifts the action with all the fans betting on their guy
     
  15. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oh, yeah but U.K now does have looks that at least 4 boxers at HW with fanbases.
    Chisora, Whyte and ofc A.J and Fury.