Unbiased RBR scoring in slow-motion of Pac-JMM III

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  1. reed_man02

    reed_man02 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think its best to score the fight as it's happening. That's when we saw the wide scores for Marquez. I think what people are doing now, is they are giving some of the close rounds to pac that they originally gave to Marquez to seem fair.

    I had Marquez winning round 3. Marquez landed the more significant punches while pac did outland him, his punches had very little on them.
     
  2. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Send me some of them drugs you're taking, please!

    I just watch round 12 AGAIN, (from the British broadcast) in super slo-mo, this time with two friends. Two of us are former amateur boxers, the other is just a serious fan.

    We all had the same score at the end:

    PAC:

    2:39 kinda' sorta' landed a right, if you want to be kind.
    2:06 maybe a glancing blow. Well, no, not really.
    1:47 Good left. One of his best shots
    0:02 An off-balance Manny managed to touch his glove to JMM's arm, but it wasn't a punch.

    Everything else Pac threw either missed completely, or were cleanly blocked by JMM's glove.

    Marquez

    2:06 maybe a glancing blow
    2:04 good right
    1:47 left. Just barely, but it connected.
    1:42 Good right that knocked Manny's head back
    1:41 one of the three flurries connected slightly.
    0:56 Straight left touches Pac's head. No damage, but it landed.
    0:51 Right to the body.
    0:44 A left that hit Pac's arm. IMO that counts.
    0:31 A left into Pac's arm, as Pac misses with his right.
    0:29 Massive right
    0:26 A right into Pac's arm. (not his glove)
    0:01 A left
    0:01 A right
    0:01 and another left to the body. All clean.


    That's 3 - 14 for JMM. - And giving Pac 3 is being generous.

    And JMM came forward at least as much as Pac. Only a delusional '**** would say Pac was "the aggressor" in that round.
     
  3. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Now for the Pac shots we disagreed on:

    1.27 Jab (light) No, it didn't connect at all. JMM pulled his head back.

    1.25 Power (Clean lead left) Yes, we missed this. Not much on it, but it connected. It's very hard to see in the British video.

    0.54 power (check hook causing JMM to miss with his lead right)
    - Nope. It never landed. This is very clear in the british video.

    0.14 Power (Reaching right hook to body) NOPE, it didn't land. In the British vid, this is absolutely clear. JMM moved away and it missed.

    0.05 Power (Straight left half lands after a failed jab)
    No chance. JMM ducked out of the way. Again, this is obvious.



    So, that's ONE more for Pac. It brings the total to 4 - 14 in favor of JMM.

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    And compu-box? They have it 18 - 5 for Manny !

    Just pure fantasy.
     
  4. amdbs

    amdbs UNDISPUTED G.O.A.T Full Member

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    Only 2 very close swing rounds? Do you mean 3 very close swing rounds (Rounds 4, 9 and 10)?
     
  5. twofear

    twofear Well-Known Member Full Member

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    apparently every punch that JMM throws counts :good
     
  6. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's not my fault that you're blind. I forgive you.

    Let me guess: You've never actually boxed, have you?
     
  7. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Only the ones he cleanly landed. Instead of snidely making a fool of yourself, how about stating specifically which of the above you think didn't land?

    Oh that's right. Those pesky facts are so annoying. My bad!
     
  8. twofear

    twofear Well-Known Member Full Member

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    the guy is obviously blind, JMM throws right hook to the body, it may been partially blocked but it still counts :good
     
  9. twofear

    twofear Well-Known Member Full Member

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    looking at how you justify every punch JMM throws make me believe that it actually lands :good
     
  10. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    so correct him on the punches he is wrong about. just pretending he is wrong isnt fooling anyone. put up or shut up.
     
  11. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Picture of you holding a laptop with this post on screen with your 72" LCD tv and top level boxing referees and judges or STFU.

    BTT, calling it 115-113 for JMM or Pac is respectable, beyond that is pushing it, calling it a robbery is pure pisstardism or *****ism.
     
  12. bahobilat

    bahobilat Guest

    any other way, it could have been ok with me.

    robbery? **** off idiots.
     
  13. twofear

    twofear Well-Known Member Full Member

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    he only need to read his own post to realize what i'm saying :good
     
  14. borj

    borj the Pacific Storm Full Member

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    I had it 115-113 marquez

    Pac: rounds 1,3,9,10,12
    Jmm: 2,4,5,6,7,8,11

    I only watched it on fight night, and will unlikely to watch it again
     
  15. 4 VALVE

    4 VALVE New Member Full Member

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    A draw is still a robbery, Marquez won the ****ing fight