Uncle Sam says Ruiz hasn't even seen contract or agreed to location

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  1. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    It appears Ruiz purse was fixed in the first contract he already signed.

    Even if AJ made $750 million, Ruiz' purse is fixed; that's what Ruiz signed fully knowing AJ could earn substantially more in a rematch.
     
  2. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Ruiz should sign nothing until he is getting his proper share. Let Hearn and his chinless wonder take him to court.
     
  3. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just like the supposed “fact” that venue was decided for the rematch, in the contract for the first fight. This simply isn’t true.

    Ruiz doesn’t have to sign Jack, if he doesn’t want to. Fast car needs to make it worth his while to sign the contract for the rematch.
     
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  4. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Sure, let him duck a previously signed and agreed to rematch. Ruiz Jr. appears so dumb and incompetent that it wouldn't surprise me at all.
     
  5. Marco904

    Marco904 Member Full Member

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    Ruiz is doing the right thing by him - creating uncertainty to try and get himself a better deal. Hearn/AJ ultimately have the upper hand assuming rematch purses were detailed in the original contract, however Ruiz has the belts and they won't want to have to get to the point of taking him to court etc which could put the rematch in jeopardy. Wouldn't surprise me if Hearn built some negotiating room in anyway. Ruiz would have signed pretty much any terms to get the first fight, knowing that if he won he'd be in a stronger position with AJ wanting to get his belts back. I want Joshua to win, but if the quoted purses for the rematch are correct, I hope Ruiz manages to get a better deal.
     
  6. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    If I were Eddie Hearn I wouldn't budge on the agreed amount, because without enforceable contracts his business isn't sustainable. I might though offer Ruiz a generous fight deal should he lose the rematch, because Eddie has the slots and the opponents to make that worthwhile for both parties.
     
  7. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Obligated to a rematch, but was it an immediate rematch? Rematch clauses need to include the language "immediate."

    Joshua can say he wants to enforce his rematch clause, but did the original contract say Ruiz can only fight Joshua?

    If not, Ruiz can defend against someone else first, as long as that guy says if he wins he'll fight Joshua next.

    I think that's why Eddie Hearn needs to listen to Andy Ruiz saying he wants more than $9 million. Because Ruiz could probably get that much fighting Wilder on PPV. Fury did, after they split the PPV proceeds. And Wilder-Fury didn't sell a lot of PPVs.

    And, frankly, the Joshua rematch will still be on the table whether Ruiz fights Wilder and wins or loses. Because Joshua will have to avenge his four-knockdown loss at some point.

    Ruiz could argue a Joshua fight will be even bigger if Ruiz has all the belts.

    Hearn better have that IMMEDIATE verbiage in the original contract. Something tells me he doesn't, however. (LOL)

    Hearn got approval for a rematch from the sanctioning bodies months ago (because he didn't want them to strip Ruiz for agreeing to a rematch). So that's nothing new.

    When he said both guys have signed the contract, did he mean this week or back in June? I'm thinking he's referring to a couple months ago.

    He's scrambling.

    I don't care who Ruiz fights next. But Hearn needs to give Ruiz some extra money or he just might take $10 million to fight Wilder first. And Ruiz won't have to fly anywhere to make it.

    We'll see. I don't think anything is set in stone.
     
  8. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Ruiz already signed a contract. He would loose in court.
     
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  9. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah, pretty much this.

    Ruiz signed a deal where he has no say, that's what voluntary defences are like normally, if the champion loses then the rematch has already been agreed and it looks like Ruiz signed that sort of deal.

    It's Team Ruiz who are playing games, the only way they can get more money, get what they want is by threatening not to honour the contract, they'll get stripped of titles but will probably be able to fight for one.

    But the throws Hearns and AJ plans in to disarray, Fury might end up picking a title up, Ruiz, and then AJ might fight for one.

    So we'd be back to four title with four different champions after all that hard work getting to this point, so Team Ruiz do have so leverage.
     
  10. rapscalion

    rapscalion Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who is Sam Watson anyway?
     
  11. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Laughing at you dickheads who are acting like you've read the entire contract when all you've actually seen is the same 3 articles everyone else has read
     
  12. jaytxxl

    jaytxxl Well-Known Member Full Member

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    *Yawn* Nothing to see here just suits posturing nothing more than hardball negotiation tactics. Obviously Ruiz has to fight the rematch but there’s nothing wrong with him trying to get as much money as possible.