Nope, it's definitely Louis who wins on the skill front. Louis has some of the best combination work of all time, in terms of accuracy, power and speed. On top of that his defensive game was fundamentally very solid. As for who would win h2h, I'd still give it to Louis. I think he'd be fast and tough enough to exploit the holes in Jones' defense.
RJJ would spark him out EASILY. That pawing with his lead hand would have gotten him stuck. That paw + **** + throw? He would have been sent to the ICU. RJJ was amazing. The refinement of boxing alone would have made it hard for JL to hang today. I say that being from the D. I don't care what ANYONE says prime RJJ and Mike Tyson are hard to beat for anyone. Not due to skill, but due to insane physical gifts.
Any ATG fighter has to be "technically" proficient on some level. Even Jones was technically proficient when it came to combination punching and that sort of thing. Manny Pac is technically proficient offensively, but he's also very unorthodox. I don't think to two things are necessarily mutually exclusive.
Are you sure you are in the right place? You should actually know something about boxing here. So please keep your sly invites to the forums where you usually hang to yourself.
I like both, but what I really like about unorthodox is that they expand the repertoire of the techniques. Without unorthodox boxers we would still look like the 1900 boxers.
Technically personally ..Makes for a longer boxing career ..Unconventional relies to much on athleticism .
Man if you are one of those dorks constantly yapping about how the old school guys beat the brakes off of the new guys I say you are a fool. Any other sport recognizes that through the evolution the sport the guys competing today are on a different level. Only boxing, which is dominated by a bunch of old men in the media, constantly yap about old boxers. Please. I love Joe, but he would have been sparked out by RJJ. You and Burt Sugar can go talk about "the good old days". People like me recognized that the level of competition and refinement of the art have improved drastically.
[ame]http://www.amazon.com/Arc-Boxing-Decline-Sweet-Science/dp/0786438495/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1275436266&sr=8-1[/ame] I think this is necessary reading for you, buddy. Maybe you'll realize the difference in technique, competition, and overall quality in boxing between the greats of old and the fighters of today if research is shoved in front of your dumb face.
Please. You sit in that circle jerk of old men gobbling up their self aggrandizing. Same mofos tell you about the "good ol' days" that when you look at the numbers they are full of it. Next you fools will say that Barry Sanders didn't have anything on Red Grange. And Babe Ruth is the greatest even though they never let Negroes play. Right. STFU! Your screen name says you don't know crap about boxing. :yep