Undecided on Wilder vs Fury

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  1. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I find this a very difficult fight to pick. I like Wilder but don’t think he is “great”. I think Fury is slightly better, but not sure the rust from his lay-off is gone or if he will be able to be what he was... so who wins and why?
     
  2. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Fury has more of a chance to defeat Wilder, id say 55% .

    Id take Fury just on Wilder will not have the longer reach this time bc I don't think he can look good without a reach advantage even if Fury lacks true HW power, Wilders been rocked by shots that surely Fury can put on him late in the fight..

    Don't pay attention to the long lay off theory either,wilder isn't some brilliant boxer and fury has been more active then him actually combined with his experience and natural ability to make up for lost time .

    The x factor here I believe is Joe Joyce in Tysons camp as a main sparring partner so no one can really use he wont be ready bc he will who will wilder get to prepare for Fury in what is not far away Dec.1st ?

    What it comes down to is an over hyped guy ( Wilder) who needs to land a right hand hes going to have to disguise throwing two punches ata time vs an underated guy ( this time) who will have the better preparation and at a weight of 255 or so Should be able to avoid the K.O bc hes not limited like the other guys where Ortiz was VERY old ( 48) found it hard to avoid down the stretch.

    Take Fury.
     
  3. Pound4PoundGG

    Pound4PoundGG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    wilder will destroy him. Fury is not 50% of what he was.
     
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  4. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You seem very confident for someone who says 55% chance... I am still around 50/50....
     
  5. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That’s not really an analysis you know
     
  6. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    That's bc I don't think Wilder will land the one shot when he falls behind.

    The K.O punch from wilder COULD land , i wouldn't bet on wilder though looking at the actual match up with no media or baseless opinions.
     
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  7. Pound4PoundGG

    Pound4PoundGG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I am shocked that Fury is taking this fight so soon. He simply is not ready. He will get blown away im 100% sure of it.
     
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  8. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I am not sure I would bet on either guy at this point. I like both guys but am not really a fan of either.

    I do think Wilders crude/wild/unorthodox style both hinders and helps him. I agree that I am not convinced he can land that...but then again I am not convinced that rust and fatigue by fury won’t open him up to that shot either. I think Fury is slightly better and that through 6-8rds that might show itself. I just don’t have a good feel for how this will look down the stretch
     
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  9. PhillyPhan69

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    I have wondered that too, and is likely part of what is holding me back from being decided
     
  10. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Well picking a fight one never picks the guy based on " MIGHT" land.

    Fury is the more skilled and has the long reach something wilder NEEDS, so its not hard at all bc you go with the guy who is going to win rounds and you get an added bonus of the guy ( fury) is actually a very clever thinker himself ( wilder is too that's why he wins because he lacks skills) .

    if one takes wilder they are going on pure assumption of a right hand landing vs a guy able to win every round.

    You cant assume a knockout every fight if that's what the guy relies on,this is one of those fights where Wilder wont have the longer reach,theres the loop hole. And fury himself may hurt wilder landing round after round ?
     
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  11. Ukansodoff

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    Ive gotta give Wilder the edge. Fury may talk it up but ive watched his 2 comeback fights and he looked OK at best against a complete nobody and a complete hasbeen who was ranked 115 or something. He needs his reactions back and at their very sharpest against a fast handed athletic type like Wilder and i very much doubt his reactions will be running at full capacity. Its just too soon in my opinion.

    But then i suppose ive gotta weigh up how much Fury is not going to be at his best next to just how terrible of a Boxer Deontay is. He hasnt fought anybody as good as Tyson Fury in his whole career and he hasnt fought anybody who fights anything like Tyson Fury in his whole career. Wilder could be made to look absolutely terrible and really 1 dimensional by Fury, ive only ever really seen Deontay fight 1 way his whole career, you put the block on that and what has he got? Id be watching those Stiverne 1 tapes.
     
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  12. PhillyPhan69

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    I agree, but I also struggle to pick a guy when I am not convinced of his commitment, training, endurance or return to a top level after a layoff and possibly taking to big of a fight to soon
     
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  13. GALVATRON

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    Guys like Nathan Gorman, Hatton, see Fury in the gym are confirming hes out boxing everyone , even Joyce who sparred a 300 pound fury had difficulties. I haven't seen one interview where anyone that boxed him where they said they could land anything more then a handful of shots. These are in shape active HW's.

    Endurance isn't a factor with Wilder fight bc he does not fight a fast paced fight, he throws in spurts and very little combos ,Fury already has an edge here bc he is the more active jabber/ puncher. Ortiz was getting hit..it took a lot out of him,anyone that takes a full flush shot and has to get up knows something is taking out of you.

    Many of wilders title fights have been with guys taking the fight on short notice who were winning,im sure fury given a solid 2 months of training isn't going to be some major factor that he needs a huge training camp to win.

    The fact is weight is the most important thing here and if hes fit he will perform.
     
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  14. sauhund II

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    Tyson Fury, on PED's, claim to fame is throwing 5 punches over 12 against a shot WK who threw 3 punches in one of the worst, if not the worst, Heavyweight fight over the last 30 years................then binged on Tony Montana.

    Tyson Fury, while charismatic, is a featherfisted chinny flash in the pan and will be exposed badly by Wilder who actually throws punches..............Fury either runs loosing by a loopsided decision while claiming to won the event or if he decides to fight he is getting starched......Bank on it, cash out fight for Fury.
     
  15. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    AJ-Wilder is too big of a payday to let some obese cokehead ruin it for them.

    If this goes the distance then Wilder wins.
    He was ahead on the scorecards against Ortiz, Szpilka and Washington.
     
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