undefeated records

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  1. big_AL

    big_AL P4P #1 Full Member

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    if holmes had stopped at 48-0 or beat spinks to go to 49-0, how would his undefeated hw record have fared against marciano's? which would have been better?
     
  2. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    The undefeated stature changes it all.

    Impossible to say.

    I want to say "Marciano ever so slightly," but at the same time, it very well likely would be Holmes.
     
  3. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Due to the fact that people think that the club fighters of yesteryear who ran records up to 115-27 fighting guys who were getting off work after a 16 hour shift at the freight yard then stopped at the arena after the pub for their title fight, I gotta go with the Rock.

    Holmes, undoubtedly fought his share of club fighters, but not nearly enough of em had 132 fights against other boxcar willies. So the Rock, for sure.
     
  4. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Vitali is the best H2H heavyeweight of all time
     
  5. sportofkings

    sportofkings Boxing Junkie banned

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    Lennox Lewis, Riddick Bowe, Mike tyson, Muhammad Ali etc etc:yep
     
  6. the quiet man

    the quiet man Well-Known Member Full Member

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    a lot is made of marciano having the undefeated record, but his opponents he beat were not that great.
    joe louis was 137 years old when he fought rocky marciano, a hundred and thirty seven.
     
  7. sportofkings

    sportofkings Boxing Junkie banned

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    Charles, Walcott and Moore were great fighters, but all were old and well past their primes when he fought them.
     
  8. exumspate

    exumspate Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Holmes had something like 20 or 21 title defenses and if I remember correctly, Marciano had like 6...

    Holmes also fought a lot of undefeated challengers...I rate Holmes higher as it stands now...And I mean no disrespect to the Rock...
     
  9. the quiet man

    the quiet man Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yeah, thats what i was meaning. joe louis, joe walcott, archie moore and ezzard charles were great fighters, no doubt, but walcott was 38 when marciano beat him, ezzard charles was 33, louis was 137 and archie moore was way past his best when he was beaten.
     
  10. Malden

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  11. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    I always thought Louis was 32/33 when he fought Marciano. And if you go by that than Holmes fought a 984 y/o Ali.
     
  12. the quiet man

    the quiet man Well-Known Member Full Member

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    joe louis was always lying about his age.
    have you seen the eddie murphy film, coming to america?
     
  13. KO-KING

    KO-KING Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Holmes, marciano had 6 title defences
     
  14. Jordan_Davies

    Jordan_Davies Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  15. Keueng

    Keueng Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Rock knocked the **** out of Louis!! No need to say more ;)