Underrated by the general public

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by dmt, Oct 6, 2020.


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  1. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    Your dad knows his stuff, then?
     
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  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    His ego is almost as big as mine. We get in a lot of debates and I don't think he could stand losing them all, so he started brushing up on the HWs.

    I thought it was really funny.
     
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  3. LoadedGlove

    LoadedGlove Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All but 20 or so who won British, Commonwealth or European Titles. A career's worth of pain and sacrifice which elevates these guys above more ordinary Fighters which goes all but unnoticed.
    I could quote hundreds of examples. I would imagine there are some British fans on here who would need to Boxrec Jimmy Cable. The list is almost endless.
     
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  4. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ken Norton, people seem to think he loses to every puncher going, what? Because he lost to George Foreman
    He also lost to shavers and Cooney in 1, but he was completely washed by then
     
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  5. HolDat

    HolDat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Spinks would give any Lgt Heavy problems. Hardly anyone talks about him, like you said.
     
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  6. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Doesn’t have to be either. Just incompetence running the sport. Need Dana white running things
     
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  7. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Seems pretty obvious to me REAL boxing fans cannot stand fighters blatantly CHEATING !! Boxing is a dangerous enough sport if everything in it is kept within the rules. I firmly believe any fighter, no matter who he is, who has been proven
    to have abused Ped's should lose their licence permanently.
    That would be the only way to stop the corruption that is so rife today. But there is one problem with that ?? Who is going to enforce the rules ??Please dont say the State Commissions.
    That is where the corruption is most rife you only have to look at a few instances of the big $$$$ guys being allowed to practically get away with murder & avoid punishment
    The old saying is very true !! MONEY$$ IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL!!
     
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  8. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    True, but I’m pretty sure all boxers take some sort of ped’s once they reach a certain level. Didn’t Ali’s doctor say he was giving him roids.
     
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  9. Johnny_B

    Johnny_B Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    That's cause he was a steroid cheat and a headbutter.
     
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  10. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    I doubt Tyson wasn’t also a steroid cheat and he also fought dirty. Holyfield’s steroid abuse was just much more obvious
     
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  11. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    I am pretty sure all of the 90's guys did steroids (except older guys like Foreman and Holmes)
     
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  12. Johnny_B

    Johnny_B Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    If Tyson took anything, he probably did it in the second half of his career, not in the 80s. Therefore his greatest wins were not due to steroids.
     
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  13. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Well there’s no way to prove it so I guess we can end it here
     
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  14. Johnny_B

    Johnny_B Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    The only thing Bowe did was hamburgers.
    I also doubt Lewis took any, he was naturally big
     
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  15. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Lewis was 210 lbs or so when he began his career, wasn't he? And he wasn't a child, he was 23 years old.

    Sure, some guys fill out over time, and its certainly possible that Lewis was clean. But IMO steriods were so prevalent in that era that its not out of the likelihood that he did them.

    Even if you don't use them to get big, you can use them for greater endurance or the ability to train more, etc.

    We know Vitali did steriods, ditto for Holyfield and Morrison. Ike probably did too. Tua and Lewis are a little less likely but still very much possible.

    In my opinion, boxing hasn't been tough enough on steriod use.
     
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