Underrated fighters.

Really? Yeah see this is what I'm going on about Johansson? Sharkey? Schmeling? These chinny guys are gonna survive getting hit by one of the hardest punchers ever who was also 40lbs heavier with quick hands? Max Baer had no defence and looped his punches like crazy he has a punchers chance, Ruddock was better and Morrison beat him.

 

Sharkey and Schmeling weren't chinny. Morrison was chinny.
Morrison has a puncher's chance against Johansson admittedly.

 

Look at other people who KO'd Schmeling that wasn't Louis and Baer. Also if Baer who was very crude but a banger and durable took out Schmeling why can't Ruddock who isn't crude but a banger and durable? Ruddock also fought, beat and KO'd men his size which is SUBSTANTIALLY bigger than those that Schmeling fought, Baer too.

 

Morrison was not 'one of the hardest punchers ever' and he had an abysmal chin.

 

I have not once disputed his chin being shaky look up any of my posts about him. But I will say he took shots from bigger men and bigger punchers than Schmeling.

He most certainly was one of the hardest punchers ever Ray Mercer called him the hardest puncher he ever faced this with a resume of Cooper, Lewis, Wlad, Briggs etc. Pinklon Thomas also named him the hardest puncher he ever faced when asked who hit harder between Tyson and Morrison he said there was no comparison that Morrison hit him so hard he lifted his legs of the ground and was certain his gloves were loaded.

 

Why you talking about Ruddock ? Maybe you're confusing yourself ... or am I confused ?
I thought you said Morrison v. the opposition of Dempsey/Louis/Marciano/Patterson/Liston.

 

Because you said Schmeling beats Ruddock, Foreman and Williams. Based on what I'm not at all sure but those were your words.

 

I thought this was Morrison Vs old timers not the other way round?

 

Yes, you asked that question too. And, yes, those were my words. :good
Schmeling should beat Ruddock, certainly the Ruddock of 1995.

 

Ruddock had already ditched his skills and became a straight-up banger way before Morrison got to him.

He was past his prime.

 

morrison was for sure a harder puncher than tyson(pinklon thommas said it too), was tyson one of the hardest punchers ever?:hi:

 

tommy morrison would have destroyed ingo ... please... ingo was a 180-190s pounder, morrison maybe was "chinny" against full sized hws who could punch hard, but he had the chin to take the shots from a much smaller man... it is the clear proof... morrison is one of the most if not the most underrated hws ever, morrison took some shots from foreman, lewis,ruddock...
morrison was much bigger,much stronger, he did hit harder , he had longer reach... morrison would ko ingo

 

Yeah, but it went off on yet another tangent.

Madcapmaxie (to janitor) : "Flip it and let me say that if Louis lost to Schmeling than Morrison would certainly murder him"

Unforgiven (butting in) : ":huh But Schmeling was better than Morrison."

Madcapmaxie : "Would Schmeling beat Ruddock, Foreman or Williams?"

Unforgiven : "Yes."

Flea Man : "Schmeling was far, far better than Morrison. I'm surprised this is even a debate."

Madcapmaxie : "if Baer who was very crude but a banger and durable took out Schmeling why can't Ruddock who isn't crude but a banger and durable? Ruddock also fought, beat and KO'd men his size which is SUBSTANTIALLY bigger than those that Schmeling fought, Baer too."



I lost the train of it to. There's a lot to take in.

 

morrison destroyed ruddock and he would destroy every version of ruddock, donovan was around 32 when he faced morrison i don´t buy the stupid excuse "he was past his prime" usually it is said for giving more credit to tyson wins over ruddock

 

And at what point did Baer ditch his skills? Or is it fair to say he never really had any? Ruddock even that one, **** even the one 3 years later looks more skilled and better on film than Baer and I'm a big fan of Baer. Yet Baer beat Schmeling handily, and Ruddock was a bigger fella who was proven against bigger and superior competition. Most on here would say Ruddock is better H2H than Baer.

In other threads 40lbs+ difference was a major thing, the deciding factor infact in alot of match ups. Here it's not even hinted. I'm loving this.