Underrated & Overrated Aspects of Some Boxers

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  1. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    I’d pick Napoles to box his ears off but Mayweather… the conversation would be lively but uncertain I favour Duran 70-30 and JCC Snr vs Duran I agree 50-50.
     
  2. FThabxinfan

    FThabxinfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thanks Sal.

    Pointing out,I would like to say Salvador Sanchez has an overrated footwork for me,I get it his head movement were superior and he looks like a featherweight Duran/Toney,but when you feed him boxers he kinda struggles to cut off the ring.


    The thing underrated about him? I don't know much but maybe his "punch angling",like setting up a position for a good punch,I think he was good at setting up positions and opportunities for a counter when he's ducking or weaving.
     
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  3. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don’t disagree with his relative difficulty in cutting the ring, but of course he was a counterpuncher by nature and by trade. It wasn’t his idiom.

    His punch placement was uncannily accurate, in the same way of a Duran or maybe a Mike McCallum. It seemed they could all re-direct punches in mid-flight.
     
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    Dorrian_Grey It came to me in a dream Full Member

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    Rambling, nonsensical post full of vapid conjecture and excessive glazing.
     
  5. FThabxinfan

    FThabxinfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I mean though,Sal was a close quarters counterpuncher, probably could've improved his footwork a bit to set up better opportunities on the inside,but anyways who needs that when you have that uncanny upper body movement and punch placement like him?
     
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  6. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Although, truth be told, I never really liked Sanchez’s straight right. He didn’t really throw a true “straight right.” It came from over the top, but wasn’t really an overhand right either. It almost looked like he used his elbow as a fulcrum, with the forearm following through. It looked weird.
     
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  7. FThabxinfan

    FThabxinfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I guess he modified the original straight right so that he could flow into the weave again.
     
  8. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    BS know nothing speaks like I give a ****
     
  9. FThabxinfan

    FThabxinfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Next time please add commas.
     
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  10. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    Here ,,,,, add them where you please friend :lol: honestly not sure why his post annoyed me so much, apologises for derailing the thread.
     
  11. FThabxinfan

    FThabxinfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I know this is a thread that's supposed to highlight a piece of a fighter that's either overrated or underrated,but I just wanna say that when it comes to only having underrated stuff,it may be Gaspar Ortega.

    I thought he had good upper body movement which served as good defense,he also timed his wide punches good despite still being tag-able at times,he could move around the ring,had a fine chin and nice workrate.


    The only possible overrated aspects of him might be his power as a supposed brawler/slugger,but I rarely saw anyone mention about his power much,his stamina might be a bit suspect but it could be a stylistic issue(Ortega had a very busy schedule and had to be in shape a lot of the time)
     
  12. Pedro_El_Chef

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    Saying that he wasn't hard to hit because two of the greatest counter punchers managed to land on him is funny.
    Young Stribling was kayoed once in 291 fights. That one time was from Schmeling. Guess he had bad defense too.
    The article below this post, gives a good account of Schmeling's accuracy.
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  13. FThabxinfan

    FThabxinfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Then,my pick for the overrated thing about Louis might be his foot speed.

    He was good at cutting off he ring but his foot wasn't as fast to catch a boxing Billy Conn.
     
  14. JohnThomas1

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    The Joe Louis footwork gets criticized so often in here posters feel the need to point out that it wasn't that bad.

    Every time he's matched with a mover or boxer type he's written off by some.
     
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  15. Pedro_El_Chef

    Pedro_El_Chef Active Member Full Member

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    No one overrates Louis' foot speed. It's in fact one of his most underrated attributes.
    Conn is the fastest thing the heavyweight division ever saw barring Ali, and Louis was right there unloading body shots throughout the whole fight.

    Edit to give a visual representation.

    Take a look at his footwork from 3:20 and 4:20. Just focus on the tiny steps he takes to follow Conn or retreat when Conn tries to move in to stifle the combos. This is anything but the plodding lead footed stalker he is made out to be by many casuals

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