Understanding The Desperation Of The "7 Days" Complainers vs Pac

So by your logic, 14 or 7 days WAS reasonable at one point. Right? He lost his "leverage" after the Clottey fight right? That is your argument.

So why is PBF camp not articulating that. It only seems that only you are. Do you know better than PBF and his camp?

Your whole argument is based on the concept of leverage. But that seems to go against what PBF team has done with everything. If it is about leverage why just that? Why not leverage size, glove, ring size, location, etc.

You seem to have concocted this whole defense out of your own assumptions. PBF's team seem not to share your ideas.

Actually that is the EXACT opposite of the definition. You can make things up that is impossible and fictional in order to illustrate a concept. I could say "if purple robots from Mars fell..." and that would be a legit a hypothetical situation.

"An [url]assumption[/url] taken to be [url]true[/url] for the [url]purpose[/url] of [url]argument[/url] or [url]investigation[/url]."

Ruined him a bit over dramatic much?
What good faith? According to you he does based on financials, yet he never brought that up in the first or second negotiations. Even during his racist rants. So how could it be in good faith when he lies?

So based on the results of The Marg vs Pac fight the 0 days can change?
So if he does 1 million PPV, do we go back to 7 days or 14 days?
What about 1.5 mill PPV buys? 14 or 21 days?

So your logic is the direct relationship to PPV buys and days of testing? Right?

So why have you made big deals about PAc's camp lying?
It seems you admitted that PBF is lying ("I don't believe...") when it is all about business leverage with you?

Again you are inconsistent.

Quoting this for future discussions.

Corny use of hypothetical. So part of your argument is based on the 'corniness' of the use of a word? What are you 14 year old girl?

 

:huh
Do YOU know the definition of a hypothetical?

 

I am not attacking his character. I don't care. Look at my post history. Not once did I bring up his personal life, although it shows he is a complete snake. I don't give a crap about Pac's misdeeds as much as I don't give a damn about Mayweather's.

Juggernaut are you also a short term memory having *******? Read the thread. :deal

 

Do you? If you didn't understand what I wrote then obviously you don't.

Just because your head is shaped like a banana doesn't mean you are one of the bunch. Read the thread. :deal

 

Floyd Mayweather's response to this post would be one of these seven things, if not all.

1) Well you know, in the sport of boxing.
2) Belts don't make me.
3) Oh here we go. So I'm too big for Marquez but I'm not too big for Pacquiao? WHICH ONE IS IT?
4) Ha' Manny Pacquiao been outboxed by Eric Morales?
5) I'm taking a little time off now
6) He on 'da roids
7) Discuss his new iPod App

Mayweather's list of excuses are wearing very thin, and I find it laughable *****'s still find anything to cling to when it comes to attacking Manny's side of the argument.

 

no one is going to draw blood even 3 days before a fight...

you can all stop right there. it ain' happening due to health concerns

 

No im not a ******* either, I would actually like to see Margarito win this fight. I also wanted Cotto to win too.

 

By "my logic"? Idiot what is reasonable is what is acceptable. That is based on what? LEVERAGE! Pac lost his.

He did articulate it you fool. Have you been watching this? When Pac had leverage and OSDT procedures were unknown he got 50/50 and a 14 day window. Now he doesn't. It was articulated in NO FIGHT!

What are all fight negotiations based on? Honor and desire? Moron. FMJ/Pac did leverage everything that was NOT covered under commission rules. The fight WILL be in Vegas. FMJ will get top billing. Seriously you are clueless.

Um no. I actually watched this whole thing go down and followed it closely. The events match exactly and I even predicted this latest revelation.

Go look up the root word. Then you will see why your "hypothesis" makes no sense. Therefore your hypothetical situation is really just a fantasy situation.

Dramatic my ass. If he didn't fight Mosely who was there to fight? Who? Arum controls all of the other top WWs. Williams was at 154. He would have been out of boxing 2 years. Had a criticized tune up against a smaller guy and then what? Sit on his hands? Fight a nobody and ruined his negotiating position?

Good faith is negotiating with the intent of actually making a deal. When you say you want a 30 day cut off, get busted giving blood at 24 days, refuse a 14 day cut off, lie and say 14 days wasn't offered, then go on to give blood at 20 days for your next fight it shows that you don't care about the timing. You had no intention of making a deal.

Yes. It could. The only way it wouldn't is if Mayweather secures a possible meeting with someon like Williams or Martinez. So if Pac does large enough PPV and gate the ball is back in his court or at least closer to his court.

Yes and no. No in the sense that a drug protocol should not be under the power of the subject. Yes in the sense that if Pac is set on 7 and Mayweather is set on making that money they will have to deal as they are only left with very dangerous options (Williams/Martinez). 55/45 and 0 days. 60/40 and 7 days. 50/50 and 0 days. Or some flavor combination.

Because Pac's team lied with the intent to set up the Margo fight. Just like they lied to set up the Clottey fight. They didn't disclose to the public that they put a 7 day testing cut off out there because they KNEW that it would kill the fight and make them look stupid. Instead they said, "We agreed to terms." knowing it will be interpreted as "Agreed to 0 days."

Mayweather is protecting his ass, but it is a REASONABLE request. If Pac wants to fight? Test. If not? Don't. Quit selling fights as "I would have fought FMJ but..." when you know damn well you aren't accepting terms and had/have no intention to, bka negotiating in bad faith.

No. It is corny because it is improperly used and inapplicable to the discussion. Cornball.

Well, hypothetically, if I am a 14 year old girl I obviously have a better concept of hypothetical situations and leverage in relation to business. Step your game up.

 

Laugh away. I am just outlining FACTS. If what I am saying isn't true? Attack me over it.

I don't think less of the man. I just can't stand morons acting like Pac is some "good guy". He is a man. With all the faults of other men.

You are also not a person that reads threads.

 

he's got a million less flaws than the man you worship who's on vacation.

 

I don't worship him you fool. The man punches people in the face for a living.

Clown. Sit on the sidelines when grown men talk.

 

Holy **** you are angry!

Uhm reasonable and acceptable are mutually exclusive.
Do you even know the definition of the words you use?

Actually - no. He said no negotiations and he has no desire to fight in the immediate future against any one. Please feel free where the term leverage was used by PBF or using the Clottey results to directly change his testing demands.

You are now detouring in the land of WTF are you talking about.

Uhm ... ok Vivek Wallace Jr.

So you are going to ignore the definition I gave you?
First off, having a second definition does not make the other false.
Second, root word defense is amateurish and sophomoric. Who was your English teacher?

Wow are serious.

While the camp talks about vacations, cleaning up the sports, no negotiations - so the sword cut both ways. But you don't see it that way. It is PBF way or no way.

Sheezaz you actually believe that is some serious "dissing". That is about as serious and obsolete as other childish street terms.

"Step up your game"????

WTF - how do you stop people from imagining you as some child?

Have you ever seen the movie "Baby Boy"?

 

you've defended every action he's done.

7 days..is it REALLY that big of a difference?

 

I'm just gonna laugh here. I would put my .2cents in but looks like paulfv already ended the thread with his first post.

 

**** these dumb *****s.

you make posting in the gen forum an intolerable experience.

you guys are dumbing down this forum.

"do you know what hypothetical means??" just like do you know what "floored means". ****ing idiots.