Unification a thing of the past

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by globenerd, Jun 22, 2010.


  1. globenerd

    globenerd Guest

    But for good reason. It's bad enough these fighters that work their butts off have to pay the alphabet organizations sanctioning fees for doing nothing. But the fact is those belts mean something and it's good leverage to have one.
    However, you only need one, and there's no reason to pay two or three or even four sanctioning fees in order to unify.
    It's gonna suck for a while, and guys will be accused of ducking all the time, but in the long run it could dwindle the organizations down and open up opportunity for a national governing body and hopefully just one or two titles.
     
  2. SportsLeader

    SportsLeader Chilling Full Member

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    The mentality is if you've got one belt - Why would you need another?

    Fighters are stripped of their belts, or vacate them without hesitation nowadays, so their value has decreased considerably
     
  3. whoupicking?

    whoupicking? Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Berto was going to attempt to unify in his fight with mosley.
     
  4. ant

    ant Ride The Walrus Full Member

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    i loved unififcation fights both fighters having something to lose 2 champions 2 fighters who you cant argue fighting each other because there both top fo the division wbc and ibf used to always seem to be the unification but the last time i seen that happen was barrera and peden i believe god its gettin years now lol
     
  5. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    You didn't really explain by what mechanism this 'dwindling down' would occur. If anything, the process you describe would tend towards ever more organisations. And I assume you mean 'international' rather than 'national'.
     
  6. J.R.

    J.R. No Mames Guey Full Member

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    I rather prefer when the #1 and #2 fighters in the division fight each other regardless of meaningless title belts on the line. Think about it, some of the best fights we've had in the last several years were between the #1 and #2 fighters in the division. Williams - Martinez would be an example of that. Often times that kind of matchup occurs when the lineal champion faces his #1 contender such as with Pavlik - Taylor I, but the corruptness of the alphabet soup titles has blurred the line between paper champion and lineal champion so it's hard to make that distinction these days.
     
  7. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    We need to have more undisputed champs !!


    Unifications are a good thing !
     
  8. ant

    ant Ride The Walrus Full Member

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    i know what your saying but the wbc ibf unifications are usually good fights i remember morales and hernandez one that really stands out to me its funny with the ibf always seem to get the sluggers as there champions lol
     
  9. globenerd

    globenerd Guest

    By virtue of the belts becoming less meaningful, the organizations would dwindle. I see your point, though, about it possibly leading to more belts, but at last count there are currently about 17 organizations. It can't possible continue to grow could it?

    And I meant national, not international, speaking only of the United States. Currently we have 50 states and 50 different sets of rules and regulations for boxing. We can't dictate to other countries, but we at least need to get our own act together.
     
  10. globenerd

    globenerd Guest

    Having just one true championship belt would be even better.
     
  11. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Preach !! You aint lying ..
     
  12. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    How did Williams get to be one of the top two in the division just by fighting Verno Phillips?
     
  13. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Ok. That doesn't really have any relevance to world title belts though.
     
  14. J.R.

    J.R. No Mames Guey Full Member

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    You can argue about the ranking all you want... but very few will argue against the opinion that Williams and Martinez are the two best jr. middleweights in the world.
     
  15. globenerd

    globenerd Guest

    What are you missing here? I'm not saying a national governing body would eliminate all the alphabet organizations. I'm saying fewer organizations to deal with would help remove many obstacles for a national governing body.