Unofficial Divisional World Rankings April 2012 Update - Where should we rank Rios???

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  1. Jonsey

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    These Rankings are reflective of performances in fights, not necessarily official scoring, to mitigate the impact of poor judging.

    As always please let me know your thoughts.

    Question of the Week...Where do you rank Brandon Rios?

    a) Still ranked at 135. If so where?
    b) Rank at 140. If so where
    c) No Ranking



    DIVISIONAL RANKINGS


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    2. Vitali Klitschko (WBC)
    3. Alexander Povetkin
    4. Tony Thompson
    5. Tomasz Adamek
    6. Chris Arreolla
    7. Ruslan Chasaev
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    9. Odlanier Solis
    10. Robert Helenius
    11. Alexander Dimitrenko
    12. Dennis Boystov
    13. Seth Mitchell
    14. Bryant Jennings
    15. Kurbet Purlev


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    2. Steve Cunningham
    3. Marco Huck (WBO)
    4. Dennis Lebedev
    5. Krzysztof Wlodarczyk (WBC)
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    7. Troy Ross
    8. Antonio Tarver
    8. Guillermo Jones (WBA)
    9. Francisco Palacios
    10. Alexander Frenkel
    11. Steve Herelius
    12. Giacobbe Fragomeni
    13. Firat Arslan
    14. Alexander Alekseev
    15. Layteef Kayode


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    2. Jean Pascal
    3. Chad Dawson
    4. Zsolt Erdei
    5. Gabriel Campillo
    6. Tavoris Cloud (IBF)
    7. Beibut Shumenov (WBA)
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    9. Dmitry Sukhotsky
    10. Karo Marat
    11. Ismayl Sillakh
    12. Eduard Gutknecht
    13. Adrian Diaconu
    14. Yussuf Mack
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    2. Mikkel Kessler
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    4. Lucian Bute (IBF)
    5. Robert Stieglitz (WBO)
    6. Andre Dirrell
    7. Glen Johnson
    8. Arthur Abraham
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    10. Sakio Bika
    11. Karoly Balzsay
    12. Kelly Pavlik
    13. Edwin Rodriguez
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    2. Daniel Geale (IBF)
    3. Felix Sturm (WBA)
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    5. Julio Cesar Chavez Jnr (WBC)
    6. Dimitry Pirog (WBO)
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    8. Gennady Golovkin
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    10. Hassan N’Dam N'Jikam
    11. Peter Quillin
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    13. Marco Antonio Rubio
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    15. Jermain Taylor


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    1. Miguel Cotto (WBA)
    2. Saul Alvarez (WBC)
    3. Erislandy Lara
    4. Paul Williams
    5. Austin Trout
    6. Delvin Rodrigurez
    7. Cornelius Bundrage (IBF)
    8. Nobuhiro Ishida
    9. Carlos Molina
    10. James Kirkland
    11. Zaurbek Baysangurov (WBO)
    12. Antonio Margorito
    13. Cory Spinks
    14. Lukas Konecny
    15. Joshua Clottey


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    1. Floyd Mayweather Jnr (WBC)
    2. Manny Pacquiao (WBO)
    3. Victor Ortiz
    4. Andre Berto
    5. Shane Mosley
    6. Vyacheslav Senchenko (WBA)
    7. Devon Alexander
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    9. Jan Zaveck
    10. Mike Jones
    11. Selcuk Aydin
    12. Ionut Dan Ion
    13. Randall Bailey
    14. Ismael El Massoudi
    15. Brad Solomon

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    4. Juan Manuel Marquez
    5. Zab Judah
    6. Marcos Maidana
    7. Lucas Mathysse
    8. Humberto Soto
    9. Danny Garcia (WBC)
    10. Mike Alvarado
    11. Erik Morales
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    13. Kendall Holt
    14. Joan Guzman
    15. Khabib Allakhverdiev


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    1. Miguel Vasquez (IBF)
    2. Robert Guerrero
    3. Richard Abrill
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    5. Antonio DeMarco (WBC)
    6. Urbano Antillon
    7. Sergio Thompson
    8. Vincente Escobedo
    9. Mercito Gesta
    10. Miguel Acosta
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    12. John Molina
    13. Henry Lundy
    14. Paulus Moses
    15. Gavin Rees

    (WBA title vacant)


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    1. Takashi Uchiyama (WBA)
    2. Adrian Broner (WBO)
    3. Takahiro Ao (WBC)
    4. Juan Carlos Salgado (IBF)
    5. Roman Martienz
    6. Agenis Mendez
    7. Sergey Gulyakevich
    8. Vitali Tajbert
    9. Jorge Solis
    10. Elroy Perez
    11. Juan Carlos Burgos
    12. Devis Boschiero
    13. Diego Magdaleno
    14. Luis Cruz
    15. Will Tomlinson


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    1. Yuriorkis Gamboa
    2. Orlando Salido (WBO)
    3. Chris John (WBA)
    4. Celestino Caballero
    5. Jhonny Gonzalez (WBC)
    6. Ello Rojas
    7. Juan Manuel Lopez
    8. Miguel Angel Garcia
    9. Daniel Ponce De Leon
    10. Billy Dib (IBF)
    11. Cristobal Cruz
    12. Jonathan Victor Barros
    13. Hozumi Hasegawa
    14. Daud Yordan
    15. Alexander Miskirtchian


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    1. Toshiaki Nishioka
    2. Nonito Donaire (WBO)
    3. Guillermo Rigondeaux (WBA)
    4. Abner Mares (WBC)
    5. Wilfredo Vasquez Jnr
    6. Rico Ramos
    7. Akifumi Shimoda
    8. Ryol Li Lee
    9. Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym
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    11. Victor Terrazas
    12. Jeffrey Mathebula (IBF)
    13. Cristian Mijares
    14. Giovani Caro
    15. Takalani Ndlovu


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    1. Anselmo Moreno (WBA)
    2. Jorge Arce (WBO)
    3. Joseph Agbeko
    4. Shinsuke Yamanaka (WBC)
    5. Koki Komeda
    6. Vic Darchinyan
    7. Yhonny Perez
    8. Leo Santa Cruz
    9. Hugo Fidel Cazares
    10. Malik Bouziane
    11. Hugo Ruiz
    12. Vusi Malinga
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    14. AJ Banal
    15. Rolly Matsushita

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    1. Omar Navarez (WBO)
    2. Tepparith Kokietgym (WBA)
    3. Yata Sato (WBC)
    4. Juan Carlos Sanchez Jr (IBF)
    5. Tomás Rojas
    6. Cesar Seda
    7. Raul Martinez
    8. Rodrigo Guerrero
    9. Tomonobu Shimizu
    10. Suriyan Sor Rungvisai
    11. Juan Alberto Rosas
    12. Drian Francisco
    13. Nobou Nashiro
    14. Simphiwe Nongqayi
    15. Sylvester Lopez


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    2. Brian Vilora (WBO)
    3. Hernan Marquez (WBA)
    4. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
    5. Moruti Mthalane (IBF)
    6. Julio Cesar Miranda
    7. Giovanni Segura
    8. Edgar Sosa
    9. Luis Concepcion
    10. Takefumi Sakata
    11. Toshiyuki Igarashi
    12. Rocky Fuentes
    13. Panomroonglek Kaiyarn Hadaogym
    14. Milan Melindo
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    1. Usiles Solis (IBF)
    2. Roman Gonzalez (WBA)
    3. Donnie Nietes (WBO)
    4. Johnriel Casimero
    5. Kompayak Porpramook (WBC)
    6. Omar Nino Ramero
    7. Carlos Tamara
    8. Rodel Mayol
    9. Adrian Hernadez
    10. Gilberto Keb Baas
    11. Ryo Miyazaki
    12. Jesus Geles
    13. Ramon Garcia Hireles
    14. Sonny Boy Jaro
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    1. Nkosinathi Joyi (IBF)
    2. Kazuto Ioda (WBC)
    3. Moises Fuentes (WBO)
    4. Akira Yaegashi (WBA)
    4. Raul Garcia
    5. Juan Palacios
    6. Ivan Calderon
    7. Michael Landero
    8. Pornsawan Pompamook
    9. Denver Cuello
    10. Paipharob Kokietgym
    11. Florante Condes
    12. Kwanthai Sithmorseng (WBA)
    13. Ronald Barrera
    14. Katsunari Takayama
    15. Ganigan Lopez
     
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  2. kosaros

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    You haven't got WBA minimumweight champion Akira Yaegashi in your rankings, whilst the guy he beat in his last fight is #5 :good
     
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  3. thewinfella

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    Guerrero #4 @135 , not for me !!!! , thats too low

    Id have Rojas , Caballero and Gonzalez all above Juanma @125
     
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  4. Bryn

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    Isn't the featherweight limit 126? I notice both you and Rob referred to it as 125? :think

    Not being pedantic, just curious.
     
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  5. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    It is , i stand corrected , 126 is what i meant
     
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  6. Bryn

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    That's cool. Just as two of you mentioned it as 125 I thought I'd been wrong all this time. :nut

    :good
     
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  7. Barlivia

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    You say your ratings are based on ring performances rather than results? Surely chisora (even though he's lost 3 on the spin) is a top 15 heavyweight? Fair enough he didn't bother his arse against fury but he won that fight against helenius and take away everything else that went on against vitali put up a decent performance
     
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  8. Bryn

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    Agreed. Wherever Helenius is, Chisora should be above.
     
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  9. Barlivia

    Barlivia War Froch Full Member

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    Exactly. Actually I'd fancy him to outwork near 40 yr old no.4 ranked tony thompson too. Heavyweight is prob the weakest division listed. Take away the 2 klits and what you got left??
     
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  10. Lilo

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    I don't think Chisora should be ahead of Helenius. Dereck's biggest win is a shot Danny Williams or Sam Sexton (who prob won't ever be a Brit champ).

    He gets all this credit for his fight with Vitali but he was still dominated and beaten convincingly. Chis' loss v Fury is equal to Helenius' 'loss' to Chis, aside from that Helenius has not only beaten but KO'd many, many fighters better than Sexton.

    Their records just don't compare.
     
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  11. SNV

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    I'd put Bryant Jennings in at heavyweight, good prospect that stopped Liakhovich recently. He's definitely better than Stiverne IMO.
     
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  12. Bryn

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    I don't see how you can rate Helenius over Chisora, he beat him convincingly, he won a minimum of 8 rounds. That win alone would mean he has to go above Helenius. Atleast in my mind.
     
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  13. Lilo

    Lilo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not for me.

    Its that whole A beats B, B beats C yet C beats A scenario.

    So by that logic you'd have Tyson Fury above Chisora and Helenius?

    You'd have Marquez above Pac but below Chris John (not really but you see what I'm saying)
     
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  14. Bryn

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    I can see what you're saying, this is the age old argument with rankings.

    But yes, I'd have it;

    Fury
    Chisora
    Helenius
     
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  15. Barlivia

    Barlivia War Froch Full Member

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    It's just that when he puts the effort in he does well. Sure he got dominated by vitali but he did well in spots and for that he has to get credit. A fit chisora beats fury IMO. Back to the point at hand though, is dereck a top 15 heavyweight?
     
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