Unofficial Divisional World Rankings September Update

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  1. Jonsey

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    These Rankings are reflective of performances in fights, not necessarily official scoring, to mitigate the impact of poor judging.


    September Update


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    2. Vitali Klitschko (WBC)
    3. David Haye
    4. Alexander Povetkin
    5. Eddie Chambers
    6. Tomasz Adamek
    7. Chris Arreolla
    8. Odlanier Solis
    9. Ruslan Chasaev
    10. Kurbat Purlev
    11. Tony Thompson
    12. Tyson Fury
    13. Dereck Chisora
    14. Robert Helenius
    15. Seth Mitchell


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    2. Troy Ross
    3. Dennis Lebedev
    4. Marco Huck (WBO)
    5. Ola Alafoabi
    6. Krzysztof Wlodarczyk (WBC)
    7. Guillermo Jones (WBA)
    8. Francisco Palacios
    9. Layteef Kayode
    10. Giacobbe Fragomeni
    11. Firat Arslan
    12. Alexander Alekseev
    13. Danny Green
    14. BJ Flores
    15. Mateusz Masternak


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    1. Chad Dawson (WBC)
    2. Bernard Hopkins
    3. Gabriel Campillo
    4. Tavoris Cloud (IBF)
    5. Nathan Cleverly (WBO)
    6. Beibut Shumenov (WBA)
    7. Karo Marat
    8. Eduard Gutknecht
    9. Cornelius White
    10. Adrian Diaconu
    11. Andrezj Fonfara
    12. Denis Grachev
    13. Tony Bellew
    14. Yussaf Mack
    15. Issac Chilemba


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    3. Mikkell Kessler
    4. Andre Dirrell
    5. Arthur Abraham (WBO)
    6. Lucian Bute
    7. Brian Magee
    8. Sakio Bika
    9. Robert Stieglitz
    10. Kelly Pavlik
    11. Karoly Balzsay
    12. Edwin Rodriguez
    13. Thomas Oosthuizen
    14. George Groves
    15. James DeGale


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    2. Daniel Geale (WBA & IBF)
    3. Gennady Golovkin
    4. Julio Cesar Chavez Jnr
    5. Matthew Macklin
    6. Felix Sturm
    7. Dimitry Pirog
    8. Peter Quillin
    9. Hassan N’Dam N'Jikam (WBO)
    10. Darren Barker
    11. Martin Murray
    12. Marco Antonio Rubio
    13. Gregorz Prozska
    14. Andy Lee
    15. Jermain Taylor

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    1. Floyd Mayweather (WBA)
    2. Miguel Cotto
    3. Saul Alvarez (WBC)
    4. Erislandy Lara
    5. Cornelius Bundrage (IBF)
    6. Austin Trout
    7. Carlos Molina
    8. James Kirkland
    9. Zaurbek Baysangurov (WBO)
    10. Serhiy Dzinziruk
    11. Lukas Konecny
    12. Delvin Rodrigurez
    13. Alfredo Angulo
    14. Sergie Rabchenko
    15. Vanes Martirosyan


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    1. Manny Pacquiao
    2. Timothy Bradley (WBO)
    3. Paulie Mallignaggi (WBA)
    4. Robert Guerrero
    5. Devon Alexander
    6. Randall Bailey (IBF)
    7. Josesito Lopez
    8. Kell Brook
    9. Marcos Maidana
    10. Victor Ortiz
    11. Jan Zaveck
    12. Selcuk Aydin
    13. Ionut Dan Ion
    14. Mike Jones
    15. Carson Jones


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    1. Danny Garcia (WBC & WBA)
    2. Juan Manuel Marquez (WBO)
    3. Lucas Mathysse
    4. Amir Khan
    5. Lamont Peterson (IBF)
    6. Zab Judah
    7. Mike Alvarado
    8. Erik Morales
    9. Kendall Holt
    10. Pablo Cesar Cano
    11. Khabib Allakhverdiev
    12. Denis Shafikov
    13. Joan Guzman
    14. Ajose Olusegun
    15. DeMarcus Corley


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    1. Richard Abrill (WBA)
    2. Antonio DeMarco (WBC)
    3. Miguel Vasquez (IBF)
    4. Ricky Burns (WBO)
    5. Urbano Antillon
    6. Mercito Gesta
    7. Art Hovhannisyan
    8. Miguel Acosta
    9. Gavin Rees
    10. Kevin Mitchell
    11. Paulus Moses
    12. Jorge Linares
    13. Nihito Arakawa
    14. Raymundo Beltran
    15. Henry Lundy


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    1. Takashi Uchiyama (WBA)
    2. Juan Carlos Salgado (IBF)
    3. Roman Martienz (WBO)
    4. Miguel Beltran Jnr
    5. Takahiro Ao (WBC)
    6. Agenis Mendez
    7. Juan Carlos Burgos
    8. Sergio Thompson
    9. Diego Magdaleno
    10. Vincente Escobedo
    11. Devis Boschiero
    12. Jorge Solis
    13. Marvin Honorio
    14. Javier Fortuna
    15. Will Tomlinson


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    1. Yuriorkis Gamboa
    2. Orlando Salido (WBO)
    3. Chris John (WBA)
    4. Celestino Caballero
    5. Juan Manuel Lopez
    6. Miguel Angel Garcia
    7. Daniel Ponce De Leon (WBC)
    8. Jhonny Gonzalez
    9. Billy Dib (IBF)
    10. Ellio Rojas
    11. Cristobal Cruz
    12. Jonathan Victor Barros
    13. Hozumi Hasegawa
    14. Daud Yordan
    15. Gary Russel Jnr


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    1. Toshiaki Nishioka
    2. Nonito Donaire (WBO, IBF)
    3. Guillermo Rigondeaux (WBA)
    4. Abner Mares (WBC)
    5. Wilfredo Vasquez Jnr
    6. Jeffrey Mathebula
    7. Rico Ramos
    8. Akifumi Shimoda
    9. Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym
    10. Rendall Munroe
    11. Victor Terrazas
    12. Cristian Mijares
    13. Giovani Caro
    14. Kiko Martinez
    15. Robert Marroquin


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    1. Anselmo Moreno (WBA)
    2. Jorge Arce (WBO)
    3. Leo Santa Cruz (IBF)
    4. Joseph Agbeko
    5. Shinsuke Yamanaka (WBC)
    6. Koki Komeda
    7. Vic Darchinyan
    8. Hugo Fidel Cazares
    9. Hugo Ruiz
    10. Vusi Malinga
    11. Jamie McDonnell
    12. AJ Banal
    13. Rolly Matsushita
    14. Jesus Galicia
    15. Lee Haskins


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    1. Tepparith Kokietgym (WBA)
    2. Omar Navarez (WBO)
    3. Yata Sato (WBC)
    4. Juan Carlos Sanchez Jr (IBF)
    5. Cesar Seda
    6. Suriyan Sor Rungvisai
    7. Raul Martinez
    8. Tomás Rojas
    9. Rodrigo Guerrero
    10. Tomonobu Shimizu
    11. Johnny Garcia
    12. Juan Alberto Rosas
    13. Nobou Nashiro
    14. Simphiwe Nongqayi
    15. Sylvester Lopez


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    2. Brian Viloria (WBO)
    3. Hernan Marquez (WBA)
    4. Moruti Mthalane (IBF)
    5. Sonny Boy Jaro
    6. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
    7. Giovani Segura
    8. Milan Melindo
    9. Rodel Mayol
    10. Rocky Fuentes
    11. Edgar Sosa
    12. Ricardo Nunez
    13. Juan Carlos Reveco
    14. Wilbert Uicab
    15. Froilan Saludar


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    1. Roman Gonzalez (WBA)
    2. Donnie Nietes (WBO)
    3. John Riel Casimero
    4. Kompayak Porpramook (WBC)
    5. Adrian Hernandez
    6. Juan Palacios
    7. Armando Torres
    8. Ryo Miyazaki
    9. Mario Rodriguez
    10. Juan Hernandez
    11. Pedro Guevara
    12. Alberto Rossel
    13. Masayuki Kuroda
    14. Sammy Gutierrez
    15. Ramon Garcia Hirales


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    1. Mario Rodrigurez (IBF)
    2. Kazuto Ioka (WBC)
    3. Nkosinathi Joyi
    4. Denver Cuello
    5. Moises Fuentes (WBO)
    6. Raul Garcia
    7. Akira Yaegashi (WBA)
    8. Wanheng Menayothin
    9. Ivan Calderon
    10. Katsunari Takayama
    11. Pornsawan Porpramook
    12. Paipharob Kokietgym
    13. Muhammad Rachman
    14. Hekkie Budler
    15. Kwanthai Sithmorseng
     
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  2. Jordan_Davies

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    Adamek should be rated above Chambers after beating but other than that its a good list :good
     
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  3. Bane

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    He said his list compensates for poor judging. And poor judging is the only way Adamek beat Chambers.

    Floyd should be number 1 at WW?

    Previous fight at WW - win against Ortiz

    Pacquiao previous fight at WW, win against Bradley, loss against Marquez
     
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  4. Smokin' Joe

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    Jmm?
     
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  5. Vysotsky

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    I looked at your HW and CW rankings then stopped. They're beyond garbage congrats. Ross #2, Cunningham isnt even a CW etc etc etc
     
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  6. McGrain

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    Saludar should be in the top 15 at fly.

    I'd see Afolabi above Lebedev at CW tbh.

    Chisora and Haye both seem high at HW.

    Superb effort really though.
     
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  7. Jonsey

    Jonsey Boxing Junkie banned

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    Yes Chambers beat Adamek if the judges were fair.

    Mayweather is at 154 as his last fight was there. Its a complicated Division. If Mayweather annoucnes his return at 147 he will be at 147.

    Is at 140lbs.

    Why would Ross not be No.2 at CW when he just came of a SD loss that many though he won to the World Champion?

    Cunningham is out of the CW rankings. What else is Garbage?

    Will get Saldar in there. I think Lebedev is still above. Haye & Chisora are high because its a weak division more than anything.
     
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  8. Vysotsky

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    for getting a draw against Huck who Lebedev should have won 9-3 or 8-4 against?
     
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  9. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I had that fight a draw, sorry.
     
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  10. DrMo

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    Aye, it was a close fight you could score either way.

    9-3 is :lol:
     
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  11. Jordan_Davies

    Jordan_Davies Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I actually had Adamek winning 7-5. Chambers didnt really do **** in most of the rounds and Adamek just outworked him

    Floyds last fight was against Miguel Cotto at 154 and theres no sign of who he is fighting next if anyone so thats fair in my books

    Marquez picked up the vacant WBO (well interim WBO but was elevated) in his last fight with Fedchenko

    :good
     
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  12. Jonsey

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    Most saw Huck vs Lebedev as close and Chambers clear over Adamek.
     
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  13. Vysotsky

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    RBR thread 118-110 Lebedev

    [url]http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=276658&page=31&highlight=huck+vs+lebedev[/url]

    117-111 Lebedev

    [url]http://www.boxingnews24.com/2010/12/huck-decisions-lebedev-but-looks-more-like-a-loser/[/url]

    116 - 112 Lebedev

    [url]http://www.badlefthook.com/event/GvElZpsy[/url]

    Poll
    Lebedev win - 33
    Draw - 2
    Huck win - 1

    [url]http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=20827[/url]

    bigger robbery Huck vs Lebedev or Hopkins vs Pascal. 34-9 for Lebedev

    [url]http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=20788[/url]

    German article with over 300 comments filled with outrage at their German fighter being awarded a robbery

    [url]http://www.boxen.de/news/huck-verteidigt-wbo-titel-hauchduenner-sieg-gegen-starken-lebedev-6760#respond[/url]


    4 rounds is generous to Huck. Any more than 4 rounds and you don't know how to score a fight, evidently that includes the both of you.
     
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  14. McGrain

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    Yeah, i remember the fuss on the forum when it happened but I didn't actually see it live.

    One of the reasons I avoid IB's priceless - priceless - RBR threads are the very clear groupthink. As for my "not knowing how to score a fight" that is what every whining little shithead that ever had someone disagree with him spouts and it's obviously ******ed. But maybe you are not ******ed and I am wrong (it's happened before).

    What did the people in the stadium think? TV judgement doesn't do that much for me, got any ringside reports scoring the fight a robbery? Here's my original write up, for what it's worth:

    MARCO HUCK SD12 DENIS LEBEDEV

    HUCK:2,3,5,8,10,11
    LEBEDEV:1,4,6,7,9,12

    So I have this one a draw.

    Not sure why this has become a little controversial as a result next door, you could score it any one of three ways without getting a serious argument from me. The only round I felt uncomfortable about scoring was the 12th, so for me, if there had to be a winner, Huck was the right choice.

    Having said that, there were a lot of close rounds that could have gone either way depending upon your scoring criteria. But definitely not the robbery some tend to make out and an absorbing contest.
     
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  15. DanishFightfan

    DanishFightfan Boxing Junkie banned

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    Lebedev's management should get him another big fight, he is definitely capable of winning them, but they have been so careful with him since the loss to Huck
     
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